"no new inning after xx"

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I must admit, I hate two-hour time limits for NNI. I much prefer something tolerable like NNI at 1:20, drop dead at 1:30. Two-plus hours of softball is excessive, especially at the 12U rec level, where I typically see those long limits.

Excessive??? I would call it outrageous.

[IRISHMAFIA]

ASA needs to get their head out of the ass and eliminate the strategic bullshit that the coaches have brought to the game. They need to change any rule involving a time limit to time limit plus one inning. Yes, you change the time to 1:15-1:20, finish that inning plus one.

This is not new, it has been proposed before and it is time for it to be effected.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

ASA needs to get their head out of the ass and eliminate the strategic bullshit that the coaches have brought to the game. They need to change any rule involving a time limit to time limit plus one inning. Yes, you change the time to 1:15-1:20, finish that inning plus one.

This is not new, it has been proposed before and it is time for it to be effected.

Shhhhhhhhhh in some places it is being done that way ........

[Rich]

Baseball has time limits, too, and some of the same BS around "working the clock."

Personally, I like tournaments where the umpire's watch is the clock.

It should simply be the umpire's discretion in situations where a team tries to make fast outs to play another inning or delay the game to make the clock run out. Just like soccer and stoppage time, which is at the discretion of the referee.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Rich

Just like soccer and stoppage time, which is at the discretion of the referee.

OMG, one of the worst ideas ever, use antiquity as a basis.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

ASA needs to get their head out of the ass and eliminate the strategic bullshit that the coaches have brought to the game. They need to change any rule involving a time limit to time limit plus one inning. Yes, you change the time to 1:15-1:20, finish that inning plus one.

This is not new, it has been proposed before and it is time for it to be effected.

"One New Inning After" time limits are the way to go. It does eliminate most of the shenanigans.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I think that "no new inning after xx min" are stupid. The best is "drop dead after xx min". That keeps the games moving and on time.

MTD, Jr., and I, on too many occasions, have had the top of a new inning start just before the time limit with the Home team losing, and then have the new inning go as long as 15 minutes past the time limit.

MTD, Sr.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I think that "no new inning after xx min" are stupid. The best is "drop dead after xx min". That keeps the games moving and on time.

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That works fine for pool games. But for games where the winner matters, having one team bat more than the other doesn't make any sense at all (and neither to "revert to the score from the previous inning" rules, for different reasons).

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

That works fine for pool games. But for games where the winner matters, having one team bat more than the other doesn't make any sense at all (and neither to "revert to the score from the previous inning" rules, for different reasons).

I agree with you regarding pool play games.

MTD, Sr.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I think that "no new inning after xx min" are stupid. The best is "drop dead after xx min". That keeps the games moving and on time.



MTD, Sr.

It may keep them on time but if I'm on defense and up a run I'm stalling to get to the drop dead time before the other team can score.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

It may keep them on time but if I'm on defense and up a run I'm stalling to get to the drop dead time before the other team can score.

Stalling can work on offense as well as defense. Granted, it's harder to stall on offense than on defense.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

It may keep them on time but if I'm on defense and up a run I'm stalling to get to the drop dead time before the other team can score.

Rich:

As already stated, teams (both offense and defense) will attempt to stall, but we as umpires can eliminate most of it by good game management.

It just my opinion that a time limit without a drop-dead requirement really isn't a time limit.

MTD, Sr.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rich:

As already stated, teams (both offense and defense) will attempt to stall, but we as umpires can eliminate most of it by good game management.

The problem becomes when a coach does something entirely legal, like when the defensive coach conducts multiple conferences in that last inning, the pitcher takes her full 20 seconds, or the offensive coach want to make lineup changes. As an umpire, there's not much you can do to stop that.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

It may keep them on time but if I'm on defense and up a run I'm stalling to get to the drop dead time before the other team can score.

I agree, it wouldn't change the stall game

[Reffing Rev.]

I was observing umpires at a field.a few towns away where they're softball.score boards had balls strikes outs runs and a clock. Official time was kept there.

Home team in the tournament game had jumped out to an early lead but their pitcher started throwing meatballs and it felt like one more inning and the visitors would win. 5 minutes left until the no new inning rule kicks in...V down 4 top of 5. With 2 outs AND 2 strikes HC decides its time to bring F9 in to catch. 5 minutes evaporated. Batter lines out to F6, visiting team was out of at bats home team won and advanced. VC refused to shake HC hand and the TD had to step in to bring an end to their post-game "discussion"