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I think Irish's point is that it wasn't our call to tell the coach to go out and find chin straps for the next day.
But I believe it is our call to decide whether or not the current game gets played. We had eight or so batting helmets that were not in compliance with the rules. IMHO, we did have the authority to not play the game until the coach made those helmets compliant. Now, if the TD got involved and said, "Play the game anyway," I guess that's within his/her purview. I'm curious if a TD would make that decision.
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Not a one. All of their helmets were missing straps.
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I think Irish was saying it's the TD's call to allow the team to play if they weren't in compliance. Not the umpires. "Sir, I cannot let your batters bat without chinstraps unless the TD tells me to waive that rule for you." And only one TD I know around here would have let them play (that one ... anything for a buck, ALWAYS sides with teams, came onto my field once and wouldn't leave and I was the one that got in trouble... I don't work there anymore.
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Where in the rule book does it allow the umpire crew to waive the required equipment?
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AFA the ODC is concerned, if the field is that small that room is limited, the ODC should be outside the fence with a team area designation.
And, of course, no one has a problem with alleged "safety" rules, right up until the whining starts because this player said this or called her that or is accused of trying to steal signs or blocking the coach giving signs, yada, yada, yada.....and yes, it DOES happen and I pity the umpire who thinks that once a comment to that effect is made, it will stop with a warning.
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This made me laugh as I remembered an incident from earlier this summer. I'm coaching 1st base in my daughter's 8U coach-pitch game. The opposing team coach is sitting on a bucket outside of the dugout when one of our players comes to bat without proper equipment. He immediately starts complaining to the PU to make the girl get a new helmet. He looks at me and says, "I'm sorry, but rules are rules." I just smiled and nodded and waited as our batter swapped helmets with a friend. Ahhh, the irony.
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I am going to disagree with those of you who think the ODB being in the ODC behind the batter isn't safer.
I have seen ODB's in safe ODC's get hit by foul balls. One instance was at a University of Michigan game. The batter was late on her swing and hit a screaming line drive into the ODC where her team mate was standing. Thankful it did not her square and only glanced off her arm. Still it hurt her enough that the trainer had to take a look at her. I'm sure the ODC at Michigan meets all of the distance requirements for being away from the plate. What I have yet to see is a batter in the ODC behind the batter get hit by anything hit remotely hard towards her. The league I work rec ball in has the requirement that the ODB be in the ODC behind the batter. The reason? A few years ago we had a girl seriously injured taking a foul ball off the side of the neck while standing in the ODC in front of the batter. Was she paying attention to what was going on? From what I heard no, but we needed to be prepared for worst case situations and the worst case situation is a line drive hit into the ODC while the ODB isn't paying attention. Now as for the stealing signs or talking trash issue. Our rule is simple. If there is anything witnessed by the umpire (s) the team loses the ODC for the remainder of the game. We have yet to enforce this since I've been working that league. |
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"That is not your call. The is up to the TD, not the umpire"
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BTW, this is routine in your area when it came to state tournaments whether it was a uniform or ball or double-base or chin straps or whatever.
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