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Old Sun Apr 27, 2014, 02:33pm
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To anyone's knowledge has ASA issued an update to the 2014 umpire manual concerning 6.1.L to make it similar to HS regarding no attempt to avoid being hit by out is necessary (to award the batter 1st).

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Old Sun Apr 27, 2014, 02:57pm
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I am not aware of any change or clarification. I have heard some rumblings the rule may change at some point in the future, but not as yet.
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Old Sun Apr 27, 2014, 09:05pm
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To my knowledge, it was proffered as a rule change for 2014 at the 2013 National Council meeting, suggesting consistency with NCAA and NFHS as its rationale, and rejected as not being a good rule even if consistent with others. No change, and no clarification would be offered to support a rejected rule change.

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Old Mon Apr 28, 2014, 05:50am
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To my knowledge, it was proffered as a rule change for 2014 at the 2013 National Council meeting, suggesting consistency with NCAA and NFHS as its rationale, and rejected as not being a good rule even if consistent with others. No change, and no clarification would be offered to support a rejected rule change.

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decisions like this is a BIG problem for ASA..... IMO
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2014, 06:58am
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decisions like this is a BIG problem for ASA..... IMO

I will not disagree that over the past five years, the ASA has become one of the weaker minded groups in softball (and there is a lot of competition for that label), but give them credit when some hold the game at a higher level of intelligence and performance by all involved.

So I guess what you are saying is that everyone should just go along with something for....... what was that excuse we always gave our parents when there was no valid response.....oh, "just because"
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2014, 08:06am
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decisions like this is a BIG problem for ASA..... IMO
I know some like the no attempt to avoid rule, but personally I hate it. Hated it when NCAA instituted it, hate it even more after FED went to it. Pitcher throwing 60, 65+, sure give thebatter the benefit of the doubt. But watching college players stand there and take a 40 mph changeup in the foot without so much as a flinch is ridiculous.

And I have no idea why FED followed. They allow the pitcher to step back because they seem to understand the level of pitching in school ball is not at the same level as club ball, yet they institute a rule where the batters are purposely crowding the plate and the weaker pitchers are scared to death to throw on the inside corner for fear of hitting the batter.
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2014, 02:06pm
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I know some like the no attempt to avoid rule, but personally I hate it. Hated it when NCAA instituted it, hate it even more after FED went to it. Pitcher throwing 60, 65+, sure give thebatter the benefit of the doubt. But watching college players stand there and take a 40 mph changeup in the foot without so much as a flinch is ridiculous.

And I have no idea why FED followed. They allow the pitcher to step back because they seem to understand the level of pitching in school ball is not at the same level as club ball, yet they institute a rule where the batters are purposely crowding the plate and the weaker pitchers are scared to death to throw on the inside corner for fear of hitting the batter.
FYI, NFHS no longer allows a step back.
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Old Mon Apr 28, 2014, 03:48pm
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I know some like the no attempt to avoid rule, but personally I hate it. Hated it when NCAA instituted it, hate it even more after FED went to it. Pitcher throwing 60, 65+, sure give the batter the benefit of the doubt. But watching college players stand there and take a 40 mph changeup in the foot without so much as a flinch is ridiculous.
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Just so you're not the only one, I whole-heartedly agree. Now you see many players stand in the box, taking one for the team, to the point it becomes a convenient way to put the batter on 1st base.
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