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Old Thu Apr 17, 2014, 01:31pm
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Here's a great explanation of the new catch/transfer interpretation. The Wendlestedt quote is a result of the new MLB intreptation which is contained in the link below:

New 2014 Rule Interpretation: Catch/Transfer Explained | Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League
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Old Sat Apr 19, 2014, 03:47pm
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Intersting that they appear to be going by some rule from an umpire school when the following is taken directly from the MLB rulebook posted on the MLB website.
Yes, but MLB has changed its interpretation of that rule. Before, the transfer from the glove to the throwing hand was considered part of the throw, that is why it was still ruled a catch before. MLB is now saying that the catch is not complete UNTIL the ball is secured in the throwing hand. So now transferring the ball from the glove to the throwing hand is considered part of the catch, not the throw so the catch is not complete until the transfer is complete.
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Old Sat Apr 19, 2014, 04:44pm
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Yes, but MLB has changed its interpretation of that rule. Before, the transfer from the glove to the throwing hand was considered part of the throw, that is why it was still ruled a catch before. MLB is now saying that the catch is not complete UNTIL the ball is secured in the throwing hand. So now transferring the ball from the glove to the throwing hand is considered part of the catch, not the throw so the catch is not complete until the transfer is complete.
Doesn't make it right or intelligent. Sounds like a lazy man's change and IMO, a cowardly interpretation

Cannot wait until a charging OF snags one off the top of his shoe and on the way to the dugout voluntarily on the mound or flips it to a bat/ball boy from the glove and the manager demands a replay to show that the OF never showed control of the ball in the bare hand and, BTW, his runner just crossed the plate.

But it doesn't surprise me, MLB hasn't been about the game for quite a while now.
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Old Mon Apr 21, 2014, 10:35am
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I predict this "change" won't survive the year. There is NO ONE in favor of this new way of interpreting things.
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Old Fri Apr 25, 2014, 03:50pm
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I predict this "change" won't survive the year. There is NO ONE in favor of this new way of interpreting things.
I predict you're right.

MLB clarifies rule on transfer of ball from glove to hand | MLB.com: News
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Old Sat Apr 26, 2014, 11:47pm
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It took them long enough to finally see their last interp had absolutely no support in the rules.
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Old Sun Apr 27, 2014, 11:28am
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Well I disagree with Joe to this degree, the umpires I've seen have called it the same on the field, but the reviewers were turning it over. So, I think the only ones hosed up were the reviewers..
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