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Old Tue Apr 15, 2014, 07:04am
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I tell the coaches at the plate meeting that all Pitching and Catching changes must be reported to me.

Rule 3 Section 3 Article 3
The plate umpire shall record all substitutions on the lineup card
and then announce immediately any change(s) to the opposing team. Projected substitutions are not permitted. Should there be no announcement of substitutions, a substitute has entered the game when the ball is live and:
a. a runner takes the place of a runner she has replaced.
b. a pitcher takes her place on the pitcher's plate.
c. a fielder reaches the position usually occupied by the fielder she has replaced.
d. a batter takes her place in the batter's box.
e. and, in each of the above situations, when the ball is declared live by the plate umpire.
It is not a substitution though. It is a defensive position change. A substitution by definition is when a substitute enters the game after not having previously been in the game. rule 3-3-3 does not apply to a defensive position change.
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Old Tue Apr 15, 2014, 11:34am
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It is not a substitution though. It is a defensive position change. A substitution by definition is when a substitute enters the game after not having previously been in the game. rule 3-3-3 does not apply to a defensive position change.
Agreed it is not a player substitution but it is a unreported positional substitution (substituted the pitcher with another defensive player in the game) that is covered by using Rule 3-3-3-b
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Old Tue Apr 15, 2014, 02:15pm
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Agreed it is not a player substitution but it is a unreported positional substitution (substituted the pitcher with another defensive player in the game) that is covered by using Rule 3-3-3-b

Rule 3-3-3b does not apply in this situation. The reason is does not apply is the entire wording of 3-3-3. The key portion is ..... "a substitute has entered the game when

b. a pitcher takes his her position on the pitchers plate.


We need to go to rule 2-57-1 which define a substitute:

A substitute is a player who is NOT LISTED on the lineup as a starter but who may legally replace a starting player. ........


In the OP, the player who came in to pitch was listed on the line, therefore she was not a substitute for the pitcher, so 3-3-3b does not apply.
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Old Tue Apr 15, 2014, 03:14pm
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Agreed it is not a player substitution but it is a unreported positional substitution...
No such animal, IB. When players switch position, it's nothing more than a defensive change. Only in NCAA ball does that require reporting and, if not, is treated the same as an unreported defensive substitution.
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