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Old Mon Apr 07, 2014, 04:26pm
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A lot of the problem for the players, the players, is that ASA & PONY allow ITUJ about the danger and the players expect that to carry over to anywhere. As I vaguely remember being 15, I probably would think the same thing.

As coaches usually either faculty with an extra stipend, or travel ball coaches, both of whom are more worried about the lineup and infield drill; neither the players or coaches give jewelry a thought ahead of time.

Sooo, what to do? Maybe, "coach, are your bats and helmets ready to inspect and the jewelry rule enforced?"
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Old Mon Apr 07, 2014, 08:14pm
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A lot of the problem for the players, the players, is that ASA & PONY allow ITUJ about the danger and the players expect that to carry over to anywhere. As I vaguely remember being 15, I probably would think the same thing.

As coaches usually either faculty with an extra stipend, or travel ball coaches, both of whom are more worried about the lineup and infield drill; neither the players or coaches give jewelry a thought ahead of time.

Sooo, what to do? Maybe, "coach, are your bats and helmets ready to inspect and the jewelry rule enforced?"
To start, unless you are referring to NFHS, this is a wasted statement that carries zero weight ANYWHERE and how is a coach to know what "jewelry rule" would be enforced since it relies solely on the umpire's judgment?
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To start, unless you are referring to NFHS, this is a wasted statement that carries zero weight ANYWHERE and how is a coach to know what "jewelry rule" would be enforced since it relies solely on the umpire's judgment?
Of course, this topic is about NFHS.

And, it's opinion and an attempt at insight to why this is so common a problem in HS; and a suggestion for trying to reduce it.
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Old Wed Apr 09, 2014, 12:28pm
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Of course, this topic is about NFHS.

And, it's opinion and an attempt at insight to why this is so common a problem in HS; and a suggestion for trying to reduce it.
Well, AFA liability, it is a wasted statement in any game, in this country
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Old Wed Apr 09, 2014, 01:21pm
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Well, AFA liability, it is a wasted statement in any game, in this country
I guess you mean this:
"coach, are your bats and helmets ready to inspect and the jewelry rule enforced?"
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Old Wed Apr 09, 2014, 01:46pm
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I guess you mean this:
"coach, are your bats and helmets ready to inspect and the jewelry rule enforced?"
I mean anything. To some level, regardless of whom states what or provides any assurances, the umpire will always be in jeopardy of being accused of being liable.
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Old Wed Apr 09, 2014, 03:06pm
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I mean anything. To some level, regardless of whom states what or provides any assurances, the umpire will always be in jeopardy of being accused of being liable.
Well, true, but "being in jeopardy of being accused" is a pretty low hurdle.
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Old Tue Apr 08, 2014, 06:46am
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A lot of the problem for the players, the players, is that ASA & PONY allow ITUJ about the danger and the players expect that to carry over to anywhere. As I vaguely remember being 15, I probably would think the same thing.

As coaches usually either faculty with an extra stipend, or travel ball coaches, both of whom are more worried about the lineup and infield drill; neither the players or coaches give jewelry a thought ahead of time.

Sooo, what to do? Maybe, "coach, are your bats and helmets ready to inspect and the jewelry rule enforced?"
During the pre-game conference (a/k/a grounds rules) ask the coach, "Are your players legally and properly equipped and will they remain so for the entirety of the game?"

If you find a player violating a rule, call the coach out on it.

Umpires need to stop addressing players. Address to coaches for God's sake. People wonder why they find an additional two or three players with jewelry on. Tell the coach and let them handle it. Without missing a beat, they almost always turn to their dugout and say, "Nobody better have on any jewelry."
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