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Old Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:26am
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In regard to borderline pitches, do you always call them strikes or sometimes shrink the zone for great pitchers or adjust to any situations?
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Old Sat Nov 23, 2013, 12:35pm
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In regard to borderline pitches, do you always call them strikes or sometimes shrink the zone for great pitchers or adjust to any situations?
I'll expand the zone for low level pitchers, but even then, I don't like doing that because it is hard for me to be consistent with a "different" zone.

IOW, I strive for consistency, not adaptability.
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Old Sat Nov 23, 2013, 08:07pm
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I give great Pitchers the call, they work hard to get the money pitch. Is the pitch a hittable pitch ? The other Coach will want the same Strike. Game Management !!
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Old Sat Nov 23, 2013, 10:26pm
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Call borderline pitches. If you wouldn't bet your life that it is a ball, then the pitcher deserves a strike.
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Old Sat Nov 23, 2013, 11:23pm
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Call borderline pitches. If you wouldn't bet your life that it is a ball, then the pitcher deserves a strike.
I go the other way. If I am not convinced it is a strike, then it is a ball.
I don't guess outs, and I don't guess strikes.
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Old Sun Nov 24, 2013, 07:50am
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Call borderline pitches. If you wouldn't bet your life that it is a ball, then the pitcher deserves a strike.
Of course, but I guess your answer for you is 100%.
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Of course, but I guess your answer for you is 100%.
Huh?
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Old Sun Nov 24, 2013, 11:47am
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Huh?
from OP: "do you always call them strikes "
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:27am
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There's no borderline. Either it touched the strike zone or it didn't.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:54am
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there's no borderline. Either it touched the strike zone or it didn't.
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 10:49am
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There's no borderline. Either it touched the strike zone or it didn't.
That's what I thought.
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There's no borderline. Either it touched the strike zone or it didn't.
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There's no borderline. Either it touched the strike zone or it didn't.
Ahhhh, if it were only that easy...
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Ahhhh, if it were only that easy...
But it is....
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Old Mon Nov 25, 2013, 05:22pm
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It is that easy. We might be perfect in making that decision ... but I believe any given umpire will be more accurate and more consistent if their mindset is simply - "Did that ball touch the strike zone" as opposed to anything mentioned above. The mindset of "I'm going to give the pitcher's this" or "I'm going to give the batters that" or even "which way should I lean when in doubt" leads to bad umpiring.
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