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Well the proof is in the pudding, folks. When you make the call first, then reverse it, there are problems. Saying that you "did things as taught" doesn't make it right because it doesn't make the teaching right.
How can anyone logically argue that it is wiser to guess a call, hope it isn't argued, but if it is, go for help then? How can anyone further argue that doing that is better than simply doing something to get the call right in the first place? Everything we do on the field is in an effort to get calls right. Why in this case do we change that? "Well, you called what you saw so great job buckaroo!" BS - Not knowing what you saw is not calling what you saw. It's calling what you didn't see. In this case, an out is called despite not seeing the foot on the base. I would implore people to forgot what they were taught initially. Just envision the play. Envision how it would LOGICALLY, not historically, best be handled. Come to a conclusion that creates the least controversy, doesn't look as if a coach is influencing an umpire, keeps the coaches in the dugout, gets the call right from the start and doesn't put players in jeopardy. In what walk of life does it not make sense to use a source of information to check or confirm something, rather than screwing it up and trying to rectify it? If you're not sure whether you have your house keys on you, do you conclude, "Yeah, I must have them," then lock the door behind you saying, "Well, if I don't, I can always call a lock smith?" Or is it more logical to just check from the start?
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I have a question: If there is a Runner on 3B, doesn't PU have more important things that watching to see if F3 pulled his/her foot?
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What If, What If, What If ???? The BU has a much better angle on a pulled foot or a swipe tag from the POP than the PU in "C" position... BU a simple "IS HER FOOT ON" PU "YES" PU "OUT" ?????
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If you check every call where you do not have 100% bit of information, you would have to go on half your calls from behind SS you would spend half the game talking to your partner. And as has been pointed out, the PU has other responsibilities that have a lot higher priority than a play at 1B. You see it, you do your job and make the call. If there is a question based on a valid point, you can ask for help then.
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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 07:37am
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I always believe it is best to get together to make a call and make sure it is correct rather than blow a call.
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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 01:31pm
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If you have no question about the call you simply quietly, calmly, confidently, tell the the coach that you saw all the elements of the play that you needed to see to make the call. It's one of the reasons that proper timing is so important to not only getting calls correct but also 'selling' the fact that you did.
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I think that some posters have posted good advice and correct rulings for long enough that when they post one can feel confident they are giving good advice.
And I think the opposite is true as well. I just hope the newbies and lurkers can tell the difference. The endless supply of completely and utterly incorrect advice from a couple of posters is becoming tiresome.
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I'm just not a proponent of the practice of 'sham' conferences with my partner(s) just to appease a coach who disagrees with a call. And yes, it's especially important that the newbies here when and how to properly go to your partner for help.
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Mon Jul 08, 2013, 08:02pm
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Actually, NCAA says to go for help first; not blow the call and try to straighten things out later on.
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