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CecilOne Tue Jul 02, 2013 03:47pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by nopachunts (Post 899164)
How many times have you seen the runner have contact with F3 just past 1B or F6 just past 2B?
Many, but not usually hindering the approach to that base.

MD Longhorn Tue Jul 02, 2013 04:05pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by nopachunts (Post 899164)
How many times have you seen the runner have contact with F3 just past 1B or F6 just past 2B?
Lots, but those don't necessarily answer his question. Contact with F3 just past first base is OBS between 1st and 2nd 100% of the time (ditto F6 and between 2nd and 3rd).

What he is asking, though, is whether a runner can be obstructed on her way to FIRST, by a fielder beyond first base.

Answer - yes (and the OP, without all the questions about F3, is a good example).

IRISHMAFIA Tue Jul 02, 2013 07:11pm
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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 899155)
What MD said is logical, but not entirely the case.
I guess I didn't remember the "a step or so closer to HP than BR" part correctly. F3 must have been slightly ahead of the BR.

Are you trying to figure out if the delay of the BR was caused by F3 with the ball; pretty sure it was not because F3 was inside the line and the BR and F4 were on foul side.

Anyway, my main question is confirming that a fielder can obstruct even if past the base the R/BR is running to.
Okay, let's start with fair/foul ground being irrelevant.

I wanted to know the relationship of the BR to F3 to determine how F3 took away moving inside.

I wanted to know the distance the BR was from the base because there is a difference between checking-up 10' away to avoid a collision and making a poor running decision 30' away from the base.

CecilOne Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 899175)
Okay, let's start with fair/foul ground being irrelevant.
Yes, just using the line as a descriptor of where they were.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 899175)
I wanted to know the relationship of the BR to F3 to determine how F3 took away moving inside.
F3 not directly in the way, unless the BR moved left, so not an option for BR to avoid F4.

Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 899175)
I wanted to know the distance the BR was from the base because there is a difference between checking-up 10' away to avoid a collision and making a poor running decision 30' away from the base.
As I said, last step or two before the base. Close enough for an actual collision with F4.


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