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Old Mon May 27, 2013, 01:58pm
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As a side note, I am just so glad the Lady Huskers are going to the WCWS. The announcers were so pro Ducks before and during the series. I don't put much stock in what they say, but come on, don't be so obvious in who you want to win. Dave, always a Husker fan.
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Old Mon May 27, 2013, 03:43pm
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I'm wondering about the umpire rotation for the series. Shouldn't the plate umpire for the 3rd game be not behind the plate in the 1st or 2nd game?
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Same thought here. Let's see, 3 games, 3 umpires. I wouldn't think it would take too much thought for there to be a different PU for each game. Dave
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Old Mon May 27, 2013, 05:38pm
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Rotation at Michigan-ULL

The same thing happened in the Super Regional between Michigan and ULL in Ann Arbor.

The same plate umpire, who I have personally met previously, worked the 1st and 3rd games behind the plate. He was at 1b for the second game.

I don't understand why each umpire did not work one game behind the plate, UNLESS, the NCAA uses some sort of rating system to assign umpires to positions. Maybe only 2 of the 3 umpires were rated to work the plate at this level, so when game 3 happened, they reverted to the game 1 positions.
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Old Mon May 27, 2013, 05:43pm
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The same thing happened in the Super Regional between Michigan and ULL in Ann Arbor.

The same plate umpire, who I have personally met previously, worked the 1st and 3rd games behind the plate. He was at 1b for the second game.

I don't understand why each umpire did not work one game behind the plate, UNLESS, the NCAA uses some sort of rating system to assign umpires to positions. Maybe only 2 of the 3 umpires were rated to work the plate at this level, so when game 3 happened, they reverted to the game 1 positions.
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Old Mon May 27, 2013, 09:23pm
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The same thing happened in the Super Regional between Michigan and ULL in Ann Arbor.

The same plate umpire, who I have personally met previously, worked the 1st and 3rd games behind the plate. He was at 1b for the second game.

I don't understand why each umpire did not work one game behind the plate, UNLESS, the NCAA uses some sort of rating system to assign umpires to positions. Maybe only 2 of the 3 umpires were rated to work the plate at this level, so when game 3 happened, they reverted to the game 1 positions.
Just a guess.....

But it would appear that in both the Ann Arbor and Eugene SR's; the decision was based on having the umpire on the crew with the most experience at the SR and WCWS level work the plate in the deciding game.

Again......just a guess.
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Old Tue May 28, 2013, 11:57am
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Just a guess.....

But it would appear that in both the Ann Arbor and Eugene SR's; the decision was based on having the umpire on the crew with the most experience at the SR and WCWS level work the plate in the deciding game.

Again......just a guess.
Don't disagree with your guess......however, you would think that if an umpire achieved this level of play, s/he should be able to handle whatever is asked, regardless of what experience and be assigned one of everything. This isn't like you are at a tournament and just found out the umpire isn't capable to handle this level...........or is it? That would not be a good thing.
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Old Tue May 28, 2013, 12:07pm
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Don't disagree with your guess......however, you would think that if an umpire achieved this level of play, s/he should be able to handle whatever is asked, regardless of what experience and be assigned one of everything. This isn't like you are at a tournament and just found out the umpire isn't capable to handle this level...........or is it? That would not be a good thing.
No argument with that. You would think any umpire working this level could work any position on the field without question. Then again, the NCAA has done stranger things.
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Old Tue May 28, 2013, 03:58pm
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Don't disagree with your guess......however, you would think that if an umpire achieved this level of play, s/he should be able to handle whatever is asked, regardless of what experience and be assigned one of everything. This isn't like you are at a tournament and just found out the umpire isn't capable to handle this level...........or is it? That would not be a good thing.
Could it be as simple as "I want to work on my U3 game" or U1 or Plate and the rest work with it?
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Old Mon May 27, 2013, 09:59pm
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That really makes no sense. Using a rating system for post-season play does make sense, as well as choosing the crew chief and even the crew. However, the NCAA would be foolish to allow an umpire into the post-season that it was not also confident to work the plate.

What does make sense is that the decision for umpire rotation rests with the crew chief

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I don't understand why each umpire did not work one game behind the plate, UNLESS, the NCAA uses some sort of rating system to assign umpires to positions. Maybe only 2 of the 3 umpires were rated to work the plate at this level, so when game 3 happened, they reverted to the game 1 positions.
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Old Tue May 28, 2013, 09:12am
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I don't understand why each umpire did not work one game behind the plate, UNLESS, the NCAA uses some sort of rating system to assign umpires to positions. Maybe only 2 of the 3 umpires were rated to work the plate at this level, so when game 3 happened, they reverted to the game 1 positions.
The umpire that didn't work plate for one of these is ISF rated. Go figure.

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Old Tue May 28, 2013, 10:35am
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The umpire that didn't work plate for one of these is ISF rated. Go figure.

It would seem stupid, but not completely unheard of in NCAA sports. I know an official in another sport who is not allowed to work certain positions in that sport at the NCAA level (per his comments to me) despite having worked as an official in the Olympic Games.

The NCAA often uses their own rating system (from what I've heard), and it may or may not make sense with regards to an officials actual abilities.

I suspect this was a case where the umpires agreed that a certain umpire would work game 3 if needed prior to the Super Regional starting.
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