catching equipment

[Robmoz]

IF the team only has one catchers mask then why can't the player warming up the pitcher wear it while the catcher is getting her gear on??? I guess I may be missing something here but seems to me like the team has at least 1 catcher's mask so it doesn't matter who uses it when it is needed.

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

IF the team only has one catchers mask then why can't the player warming up the pitcher wear it while the catcher is getting her gear on??? I guess I may be missing something here but seems to me like the team has at least 1 catcher's mask so it doesn't matter who uses it when it is needed.

Talking about warming up a 2nd Pitcher during the game.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

IF the team only has one catchers mask then why can't the player warming up the pitcher wear it while the catcher is getting her gear on??? I guess I may be missing something here but seems to me like the team has at least 1 catcher's mask so it doesn't matter who uses it when it is needed.

How would you warm up a pitcher while you are on defense?

[CecilOne]

I thought it was obvious I was talking about when the catching mask was in use. Please focus on the OP Q.

Also, I didn't consider this problem:
"face mask, which is about 3 inches farther from chin than a catcher's mask would be."

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I thought it was obvious I was talking about when the catching mask was in use. Please focus on the OP Q.

obviously not...lol

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

How would you warm up a pitcher while you are on defense?

With a glove

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

With a glove

In the old days, ... aw, never mind.

[Robmoz]

Would we be required to "rule" on such a 2nd pitcher warming up issue that is occurring outside the confines of the playing field? If I glance over to DBT and see a catcher w/o a mask on, is that something that I really need to be concerned with?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

Would we be required to "rule" on such a 2nd pitcher warming up issue that is occurring outside the confines of the playing field? If I glance over to DBT and see a catcher w/o a mask on, is that something that I really need to be concerned with?

Yes. Your legal responsibility and (therefore) liability starts when you can see it happen and do nothing. Knowing there is a rule to protect that minor and deciding to ignore it (for any reason) is, at least, negligence, and most likely a jury will consider as gross negligence.

In ASA, the requirement is universal, anywhere an umpire can see inside the complex. In NFHS, they can only legally warm up in the defined warm-up area which must be adjacent to the field and within the view of the umpires (FOR A REASON!!).

In NCAA, only a student-athlete catcher receiving the 5 warmup pitches at home plate is required to wear a mask.

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

...In ASA, the requirement is universal, anywhere an umpire can see inside the complex. In NFHS, they can only legally warm up in the defined warm-up area which must be adjacent to the field and within the view of the umpires (FOR A REASON!!).

Where is this written in ASA or Fed?

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Yes. Your legal responsibility and (therefore) liability starts when you can see it happen and do nothing. Knowing there is a rule to protect that minor and deciding to ignore it (for any reason) is, at least, negligence, and most likely a jury will consider as gross negligence.

I do not make it a habit to scan the areas outside the confines of the playing field other than perhaps when considering things that might create DB situations for discussion in pregame. Although I might be able to see such an area, that doesn't mean I actually do see that area...which is not the same as deciding to ignore it and a far cry from being negligent.

Ok, so when I can see it happening outside the confines of the playing field (per Fed Case 10.1.2-A) I will instruct F2 to put on the approved protection. However, what if she ignores the instruction or what if see a repeated offense later - what penalty provision do I have as enforcement then?

[UmpireErnie]

Originally Posted by Robmoz

Would we be required to "rule" on such a 2nd pitcher warming up issue that is occurring outside the confines of the playing field? If I glance over to DBT and see a catcher w/o a mask on, is that something that I really need to be concerned with?

Well..let me put it this way. After the catcher warming up the pitcher while not wearing a mask gets taken away to the hospital because she took a pitch in the face.. when you get called to a deposition for the lawsuit the parents file against the school, coach, league, umpire, and ball manufacturer and they ask you if you noticed the catcher taking pitches without equipment required by rule what are you going to say?

Obviously we are not focused that much on what happens off the field but if you see this happen, stop the game and require that the catcher wear the required equipment. Only takes a moment.

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by UmpireErnie

Well..let me put it this way. After the catcher warming up the pitcher while not wearing a mask gets taken away to the hospital because she took a pitch in the face.. when you get called to a deposition for the lawsuit the parents file against the school, coach, league, umpire, and ball manufacturer and they ask you if you noticed the catcher taking pitches without equipment required by rule what are you going to say?

Obviously we are not focused that much on what happens off the field but if you see this happen, stop the game and require that the catcher wear the required equipment. Only takes a moment.

I get the point and will certainly take the moment IF i see it... but if I don't notice it, I certainly don't go looking for it either, behind the dugout, near the parking lot, or next to the porta-potee. In spite of what a previous poster says, that is not being underofficious (sp).