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Other than the traditional tag the batter out or throw her out at first, there are only three ways to get that out: 1) She enters dead ball territory. 2) She does not reach first base prior to the next pitch. 3) She does not reach first base prior to all infielders leaving the diamond. If none of these occur (although I would think #3 would have occured), how do you call her out? Purposely removing her helmet is not an out and just a team warning or dugout restriction on second offense. I supposed you could make a case for interference when a team mates comes out on to the field, but that would be for interference and not for the action of the batter.
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Wed May 22, 2013, 11:09am
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Essentially, in either code, for a BR who doesn't know she's a BR and stops trying to advance to first, we're talking about abandonment. I'm not a big abandonment guy, and I know several umpires like to use that FAR too quickly and FAR too aggressively. However, in THIS case - I believe it applies. And if a teammate tosses the BR her glove so that she can go play a position - that's a pretty clear indication to me of a player who has abandoned her wish to advance to a particular base.
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Wed May 22, 2013, 11:35am
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This is not abandonment. Check 8-6-19: A runner is out when...she abandons a base by entering dead-ball territory.
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Wed May 22, 2013, 11:10am
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More than likely, your #3 is what would happen. I can't imagine an infielder staying in fair territory while the BR goes over to her dugout, discards her helmet, and is handed her glove. If, by some chance, there is still an infielder in fair territory, and the BR makes it to first base with her helmet off and her glove on, I suppose the rules leave us no choice but to say she's still a viable runner.
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Wed May 22, 2013, 11:42am
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The runner is out when...any coach or member of the offensive team, other than a runner, interferes with a defensive player's opportunity to make a play. This includes, but is not limited to...member(s) of the offensive team stand or collect around a base to which a runner is advancing, thereby confusing the fielders and adding to the difficulty of making the play. Members of a team include bat/ball shaggers or any other person authorized to sit on the team's bench. But either one is still a have-to-see-it situation.
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Wed May 22, 2013, 05:02pm
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Hey, Andy, want to know what I think is funny? The way people are trying to mold a rule to fit what is perceived as a violation.
Not that there isn't possibly an issue, but the "what ifs" are funny.
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Wed May 22, 2013, 05:10pm
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