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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:19am
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Verifying - NFHS / ASA

I haven't been umping that much the last couple of years and now have the time again.

So I'm in "review mode". Have patience if my questions seem to be pretty basic ones.

R1 on 2b. Batter hits a shot towards F1. Ball deflects off of F1's glove and goes towards F6. R1,who is in front of F6, gets hit with the ball. There was no intention of running into the ball, it happened really quick, and R1 had no chance of getting out of the way.

For both NFHS and ASA my understanding is no call, play on.

Does this seem the correct ruling?
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:26am
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Does F6 have a chance at the ball had it not hit R1?
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:44am
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Does F6 have a chance at the ball had it not hit R1?
My thinking, based on 8-4-1f, was that F6 having a play on the ball didn't matter.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 09:50am
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Dont have all the rules citations at the moment, but FED is a little different in that they do not consider a deflected ball off the pitcher to be an initial play. If another player still has a chance to make a play after a ball being deflected by the pitcher, it is still considered to be an initial play.

But, there is also a rules citation in FED that if the ball is deflected and the runner did not have a chance to avoid the ball, they are not out.
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 10:25am
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Yeah I dont' have to references with me right now either but in FED there is the initial play definition that can make this very play interference. Which bothers me as runner can't be expected to know whats going to happen on a deflected ball!! But this falls into the "life is NOT fair" and the I dont' get to make the rules I just have to enforce them!!
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Old Wed Apr 10, 2013, 11:03am
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Yeah I dont' have to references with me right now either but in FED there is the initial play definition that can make this very play interference. Which bothers me as runner can't be expected to know whats going to happen on a deflected ball!! But this falls into the "life is NOT fair" and the I dont' get to make the rules I just have to enforce them!!
I thought the initial play ruling deals with a runner hindering a fielder, not a runner being hit with the batted ball. So why would this be INT in FED?
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