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Wed Jul 23, 2003, 11:16pm
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Put the old iron mule (mask) out to pasture tonight.
Wednesday night Woman's FP League, 3 (7 inning) games back-to-back-to-back. Only a short break between games, no time to change. So one does the plate for 3 games, next week has the field for the night. Tonight was my night behind the plate and I was not looking forward to 4 1/2 hours of that heavy honker pulling down on my head and tangling with my hat, etc. I could have opted for a lighter mask, but I just didn't see enough difference to justify the bucks. Instead I broke with tradition and bought - (gasp) - the hockey style mask! Did the first game with the iron mule, then switched for the 2nd game. The first thing I noticed was that everything was brighter - the view was so much greater. I also discovered that I was going to have trouble with the setting sun that the hat and mass of the iron mule had previously shielded. It is very light, and comes off easy. It doesn't even come close to conflicting with my glasses (I don't wear sport glasses, just my normal wire frame,large lens glasses.) When I first tried these on at the stores, I hated them - they just felt so different. Today I didn't even try it on; I was so determined to change that I just bought it and decided to go with it. As soon as I had some pitches comming at me I forgot about the mask and focused on the game. After a couple innings I was so in love with the new mask I knew that I would never go back to the old iron mule. I am not a trailblazer; a lot of guys I work with in West Michigan already are wearing the hockey mask. How 'bout your area? Anybody switching yet. You? WMB 
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Thu Jul 24, 2003, 09:54am
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In Indiana I have seen only 1 guy wear the hockey mask. He swears by it. There was some talk about if it was "approved" for ASA championship play. The UIC at the state tournament (B level) allowed it but he was questioning whether the higher level tourneys (national qualifiers and nationals) would allow it or not. I think the biggest hangup these guys had was no hat, which is a required part of the umpires uniform.
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Thu Jul 24, 2003, 10:55am
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I thought no equipment PU's was only a problem in my neck of the woods. I really wouldn't mind it if they would stay put. Unfortunately they usually either dance, bury themselves behind F2, or gripe about taking one in the shin. -Kono
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Thu Jul 24, 2003, 11:38am
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Up North...
here in the Traverse City area, we have one guy that wears that mask.
Most wear the Honigs lightweight single or double bar. I need to wear a hat because I have long bangs and longish hair. Hat keeps hair out of my eyes and face, so the helmet is probably out for me.
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Thu Jul 24, 2003, 11:53am
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I tried it and I liked it a lot
I made the switch from a traditional mask to the hockey helmet this year, and I've loved it ever since. If you've got long hair, it's probably not gonna be a good fit for you, but I do have short hair, so that's no problem for me. To me, it's not as hot as a mask and cap. Yes, I still sweat, but I keep a small towel in my ball bag, to wipe the sweat off on, after wicking it away with my index finger. The only time I take it off is in between innings and if I'm having a discussion with a manager. I make all of my calls at the plate with it on. The visibility is great, and I actually got hit with a couple of bad throws, on plays at the plate, that would have hit me in the head/face, had I been using a mask and cap. It's worked well for me. I know I've read plenty of dissenting opinions about it, though. To each his/her own.
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Thu Jul 24, 2003, 01:09pm
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I wear my old full-strength steel mask and don't have problems with my cap, my neck muscles or foul tips in the face. It's off on every batted ball and every running play. What mine needs is a red/green light, so the pitchers know when I'm finished writing substitutions.
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Fri Jul 25, 2003, 01:11pm
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Has anyone worn the hockey-style helmet in ASA Nationals?
Does the helmet meet the definition of a "mask" in ASA Rule 10? It would seem both a mask and a hat are required. Quote:
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Fri Jul 25, 2003, 02:05pm
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ASA will approve the helmet mask....
........as soon as the start selling their own version of it, with the ASA logo emblazoned on it. Until then, I'll just continue to call my local league's games, using my helmet (and not wearing an ASA cap), and when that's over with, I'll move onto baseball. Their (ASA) state/national tournaments don't appeal much to me anyway, so that's not an obstacle I'll have to deal with.
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Tue Jul 29, 2003, 12:21pm
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The UIC and the assistant UIC both searched the book for a reason not to let him wear it, but could not come up with anything.
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Fri Aug 01, 2003, 11:39am
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If you want to get a hat under the hockey mask, you can't wear a combo hat. You'll have to go for the short brim plate hat. I know most catalogs, well at least the ones I get don't have a good selection of plate hats in black or navy. Check out this one. http://www.lestersupstatesports.com/...uct_Code=BA065
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Fri Aug 01, 2003, 07:52pm
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Sun Aug 03, 2003, 11:49am
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Mon Aug 04, 2003, 10:30am
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more helmet stuff....
A few thoughts from my ASA Metro UIC on the helmet....
1) It brings to much attention on the umpire 2) ASA requires the plate umpire to wear a cap as part of the uniform, you can't wear the cap with the helmet. 3) When the helmet is new or shined, the reflection or glare could be distracting to the pitcher. As you can probably tell, he is not in favor of allowing the helmet. I have also heard that Southern California ASA has a written policy that will not allow their umpires to wear the helmet.
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Mon Aug 04, 2003, 05:34pm
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Change is never easy, and some things die hard. Remember that not too many years ago we were calling from behind the catcher with the "Pillow" in front of us. I held off for several years before I finally bought my first under-shirt protecter.
As a consultant, and thus an instigator of change to business, I constantly battled the "But we've always done it this way!" cry. I purposely titled this post "Broke with Tradition" because I expected to hear some of the same. But I was also curious as to how many had already beaten me to the new helmet. There is no question in my mind that the helmet will be the mask of choice for umpires in just a few short years. It is such a superior option that it can not be ignored. Look at the rapid explosion of it's use by catchers. For awhile it was only the girls using it; then the boys started; and now the big boys are using it. They switched for good reason. And we will also. ASA may be dragged kicking and screaming; or ASA may lead the way. But it will be approved. WMB
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