Retouch home after leaving field

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

What rule backs you up sending her back to her previous base without having an out?

By sending her back you are recognizing that the play was illegal and therefore you have interference and on interference you have an out on the runner closest to home and then you return any other runners.

Speaking FED, I would use rule 8-6-15 and 8-6-18. While -15 speaks of the on-deck batter, it mentions that if no play is obvious when the on-deck batter (and, as a viable extension, any offensive player not involved in base running) interferes, nobody is out and runners return. And -18 requires a runner who has scored or has been retired to interfere with the defense's opportunity to make a play. Whereas example "B" in youngump's scenarios clearly shows that R1 prevented the defense from playing on B2, example "A" does not.

[jmkupka]

If B1 did not enter the dugout, was pushed back by a teammate ('you missed the plate!') should she be immediately called out? If defense saw none of this, and did not appeal the missed base, would the run still count?
While the answer to the first question is obviously yes, wouldn't calling her out give a clue to the defense that an appeal might be needed?
Sorry for the semi-hijack... this is before my first coffee

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Speaking FED, I would use rule 8-6-15 and 8-6-18. While -15 speaks of the on-deck batter, it mentions that if no play is obvious when the on-deck batter (and, as a viable extension, any offensive player not involved in base running) interferes, nobody is out and runners return. And -18 requires a runner who has scored or has been retired to interfere with the defense's opportunity to make a play. Whereas example "B" in youngump's scenarios clearly shows that R1 prevented the defense from playing on B2, example "A" does not.

If you want to take it to Fed you have a retired runner at this point and still interference.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

If you want to take it to Fed you have a retired runner at this point and still interference.

I never said there wasn't interference. But not all interference calls result in out calls on other runners. It's not automatic.

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I never said there wasn't interference. But not all interference calls result in out calls on other runners. It's not automatic.

It does when a play is made do to the interference. Section 8 the runner is out. 8-6-15 is blocked ball do to equipment. weak argument as their is no equipment. Penalty a play is being made on a retired runner you have an out on the runner being played on. since this player is legally a retired runner you have 2 violations.

8-6-16-c (Ding Ding Ding) We have a winner!!! to long to type out but second sentence A runner continuing to run and drawing a throw may be considered a form of interference. Penalty the ball is dead and the runner closest to home is out and all other runners return to last base touched at time of interference.