Retouch home after leaving field

[BretMan]

Way to change your original premise. Here's what you first wrote:

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

Yes it is illegal in the OP. Once you enter the Dugout area (leave the field of play) you may not go back and retouch a missed base including home plate. after the play is completed she may re-enter to pick up the bat or to go coach but once she entered the dugout during live ball play she can not return until the ball is dead. you could rule interference 8-7-p

Nothing about drawing a throw or letting another runner advance. I don't think that anyone said this could never be interference, rather that the player would have to actually interfere with something before it was.

I don't care if your initials are KR, I think that using 8-7-N to classify this player as "bench personnel" is pretty sketchy. There's nothing in that rule that addresses the status of the player as being "bench personnel".

What if...bases are loaded. Ball is hit, three runners score. Before leaving the field, the three runners all circle third base to make the play on the batter-runner harder for the defense.

By the logic offered, these three scored runners would all be considered as bench personnel. But your point was that they had to enter the dugout first, then come back out. It just isn't consistent. And, like the retouch of home in the first post, it's probably moot.

Why not just call this player a "retired/scored runner". The penalty is the same if she interfers- runner closest to home is out.

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Why not just call this player a "retired/scored runner". The penalty is the same if she interfers- runner closest to home is out.

I did earlier

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

No I do not I am just the opposite I try to stop the problems before they happen. I work a lot of high caliber ball.

But like I said if in coming back after leaving the field the Defense makes a play on the retired - scored runner you could and should have interference because the player has no right to re enter the field during this play as she is now bench personnel.

Now if she never left the field of play she has every right to go back and properly touch the base. or to retrieve a bat as someone else said.

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Insane Blue

I did earlier (call this player a retired/scored runner).

Then why spend four more pages arguing that she is "bench personnel"?

And why pull out a rule that makes no mention or definition of "bench personnel" as your "proof" that this player is bench personnel?

Why not just use the rule about interference by a retired/scored runner?

[MD Longhorn]

Sane: Is the sky blue?
Insane: No, it's orange.
Sane: How can you say that, look right there, it's blue.
Insane: That car between me and the sky is orange. I see orange.
Sane: The car is not the sky. The sky is blue.
Insane: Oranges are orange. Only blueberries are blue.
Sane: We're not talking about oranges or cars, I asked about the sky.
Insane: But blueberries are not the sky. And oranges are juicy.
Sane: What in the world are you talking about?
Insane: The same thing we've been talking about all along - that blueberries are not juicy. Like I've said from the start.

At what point does the sane become insane for trying to engage with the insane?

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Sane: Is the sky blue?
Insane: No, it's orange.
Sane: How can you say that, look right there, it's blue.
Insane: That car between me and the sky is orange. I see orange.
Sane: The car is not the sky. The sky is blue.
Insane: Oranges are orange. Only blueberries are blue.
Sane: We're not talking about oranges or cars, I asked about the sky.
Insane: But blueberries are not the sky. And oranges are juicy.
Sane: What in the world are you talking about?
Insane: The same thing we've been talking about all along - that blueberries are not juicy. Like I've said from the start.

At what point does the sane become insane for trying to engage with the insane?

I don't know you tell us since you seem to be the one who has not backed up you position with any rule references. I have looked over a lot of post on this board and normally you seem to be very astute. But in my judgment you have not been on this thread.

With that I am done on this thread.

[MD Longhorn]

Don't take that as a personal attack - "Insane" wasn't meant to be specifically you, despite the commonality of the moniker.

Just saying that the sane trying to reason with the insane is, in itself, insane.

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Don't take that as a personal attack - "Insane" wasn't meant to be specifically you, despite the commonality of the moniker.

Just saying that the sane trying to reason with the insane is, in itself, insane.

Cool I wont then.

[CecilOne]

Some posters are bordering on personal attacks versus polite and objective which we expect on this forum.
Please keep it under control!

[Insane Blue]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Way to change your original premise. Here's what you first wrote:

Originally Posted by Insane Blue View Post
Yes it is illegal in the OP. Once you enter the Dugout area (leave the field of play) you may not go back and retouch a missed base including home plate. after the play is completed she may re-enter to pick up the bat or to go coach but once she entered the dugout during live ball play she can not return until the ball is dead. you could rule interference 8-7-p

This was in answer to

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

It's not illegal. It doesn't mean anything, but it's not illegal. (As an aside, even if retouching were somehow illegal ... why would you call a scored runner out for reentering the field - maybe she's coming to get her bat ... or coach a base)

And my rule reference is the same as K.R.