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Just because I disagree with a ruling doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it on the field. |
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Semantically, it should be 'no pitch' - with the EFFECT of a dead ball, no? At least, here in NY (ASA JO with Jay Miner's variations) it is. |
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At the time of the double-touch, it is a delayed dead ball because of the illegal pitch. When the runner leaves the base early, the ball is dead.
When an illegal pitch is committed and the batter and all runners do not advance safely one base, then the offensive team has the option to take the result of the play or enforcement of the illegal pitch penalty. In this case, the result of the play is the runner on 1st base being called out for leaving early. There is no other movement with runners and no thrown pitch. The offense could elect this result. This is the totality of the play. Or, because not all runners advanced safely, the offense can choose to take the penalty for an illegal pitch. It is a ball on the batter and each runner is advanced one base. |
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Say, for example, the batter swings and hits the catcher's mitt while stroking a ground ball to F6. R1 on second base (only runner) interferes with F6 as she runs to third, and there is no play on the BR. Does the penalty option afforded to the offensive head coach for catcher obstruction allow R1 to return to second and award the BR first base? Or do we still penalize R1 despite the catcher obstruction, rule her out for interference, and put the BR on first? |
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If that's correct, then why the inconsistency? In my OP (which comes from NFHS case play 8.6.21 as BretMan pointed out), both the illegal pitch and the LBE penalties are enforced. Why not enforce both penalties here? Or am I missing something...? |
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Looking for similar language or a case play for NFHS. |
Just don't understand how you could have an illegal pitch when you have a no pitch call. Can a no pitch be illegal also?
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Would not accepting the enforcement of the rule negate the play? And if you negate the play, how can you have interference on a play that didn't exist? |
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But... I don't make the rulings, I just enforce them. |
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My head hurts.... |
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