VHSL "uniforms"

[EsqUmp]

None of this really matters. It is a code and not a law punishable by anything.

Anytime someone is held accountable doing something to a flag, it ends up in the Supreme Court and the law is struck down as unconstitutional.

[UmpireErnie]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I guess it's cooler with no back.

Backless. As if we weren't sexy enough already!

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I agree with you 1,000%.

MTD, Sr.

as do I

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Conversely, perhaps they are perfectly aware of the criteria in the Flag code, and yet they decide that pride and patriotism outweighs the minor indiscretion. I personally find no fault in that.

My $.02
I personally do find fault with that thinking.
I see it as showing a lack of respect for the very thing the Flag represents.
What kind of pride and patriotism is being shown by knowingly violating the wishes object of your pride and patriotism?

I find less fault with those who may display a flag improperly without knowing the code...


I would think that, knowing what the code has to say, if one wanted to display pride and patriotism they could fashion an emblem of red-white and blue. Maybe lie the banners that they hang from thhe stands during the World Series....

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

None of this really matters. It is a code and not a law punishable by anything.

Anytime someone is held accountable doing something to a flag, it ends up in the Supreme Court and the law is struck down as unconstitutional.

I have a problem with those that think it is OK to do the "wrong" thing purely because they know there is no punishment.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

I have a problem with those that think it is OK to do the "wrong" thing purely because they know there is no punishment.

ditto, also me too.

[CecilOne]

Now I am more confused. Watching my Villanova team beat #17 Marquette, I noticed something about the ref "uniforms". Two of the officials had flag patches on their left sleeves, one with stars forward, one with stars backward. Huh ??

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Now I am more confused. Watching my Villanova team beat #17 Marquette, I noticed something about the ref "uniforms". Two of the officials had flag patches on their left sleeves, one with stars forward, one with stars backward. Huh ??

Someone bought the wrong patch.

I've also seen college basketball crews where one of the officials had no patch, and where one had a white border around the flag and the other two had gold borders. So much for uniform.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

My $.02
I personally do find fault with that thinking.
I see it as showing a lack of respect for the very thing the Flag represents.
What kind of pride and patriotism is being shown by knowingly violating the wishes object of your pride and patriotism?

I find less fault with those who may display a flag improperly without knowing the code...


I would think that, knowing what the code has to say, if one wanted to display pride and patriotism they could fashion an emblem of red-white and blue. Maybe lie the banners that they hang from thhe stands during the World Series....

Maybe I'm just in the minority, but I'm stunned how some people consider what is technically an improper display of the Flag for patriotism as a lack of respect.

It's not as if the Flag is displayed on the soles of players' and officials' shoes, or on the crotch of their pants. That, to me, is a lack of respect. It is also a lack of respect to display the Flag upside down, in a state of disrepair, or some other fashion that clearly says, "I know how it should look, but I'm making a statement because this country is screwed up!"

I wish everyone would abide by all laws and regulations, particularly those that clearly do physical, mental, and fiscal harm to others, as vehemently as some here feel about this issue. This country would be far better off.

Oh well, to each his/her own. There are way too many other things in today's society that I feel need to be addressed than this.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Now I am more confused. Watching my Villanova team beat #17 Marquette, I noticed something about the ref "uniforms". Two of the officials had flag patches on their left sleeves, one with stars forward, one with stars backward. Huh ??

The appropriate way to wear the Flag patch on a uniform shirt is to have the field of stars closest to the heart. On the left sleeve or breast, the Flag would look "normal", and on the right sleeve or breast, it would look "backward".

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Maybe I'm just in the minority, but I'm stunned how some people consider what is technically an improper display of the Flag for patriotism as a lack of respect.

I'm not sure which of us is in the minority - could be me.
I think we both agree that the ability to reasonably express a minority opinion is one of those things the Flag represents... :-)

It's not as if the Flag is displayed on the soles of players' and officials' shoes, or on the crotch of their pants. That, to me, is a lack of respect. It is also a lack of respect to display the Flag upside down, in a state of disrepair, or some other fashion that clearly says, "I know how it should look, but I'm making a statement because this country is screwed up!"

No one (that I know of) is arguing that those things you mention are not displays of a lack of respect, too....

Funny thing - I have less of a problem with the upside down display, which is specifically referenced as a sign of distress by that same code, specifically BECAUSE that is spelled out in the code.

I wish everyone would abide by all laws and regulations, particularly those that clearly do physical, mental, and fiscal harm to others, as vehemently as some here feel about this issue. This country would be far better off.

There we agree.

Oh well, to each his/her own. There are way too many other things in today's society that I feel need to be addressed than this.

[/QUOTE]

True, but a discussion is a discussion and sometimes people like to express an opinion.
The unfortunate thing is that often when bringing about the disregard for the U.S. Code regarding "flags on uniforms", people are often accused of being unamerican or not "patriotic"...
I'm also the guy who gets eye rolls when noticing that the flag is on the wrong side when set up on a podium.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

True, but a discussion is a discussion and sometimes people like to express an opinion.
The unfortunate thing is that often when bringing about the disregard for the U.S. Code regarding "flags on uniforms", people are often accused of being unamerican or not "patriotic"...
I'm also the guy who gets eye rolls when noticing that the flag is on the wrong side when set up on a podium.

I've given up on that since many don't know North from South, East from West or right from left.