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MD Longhorn Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Big Slick (Post 857584)
I would consider this a live ball appeal of missing a base, just like missing first base.
Not in OBR. By rule. (Perhaps in FED, I don't know those baseball rules quite as well.)

Dakota Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:47am
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 857580)
...Is it different in softball?
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 857588)
Again, it is NOT possible, under pro baseball rules...
OK, you ask for the softball ruling, and then continue to argue baseball? :rolleyes:

IRISHMAFIA Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 857552)
This is true until the tag attempt is over. It's no longer a tag attempt once the original one is missed and the catcher is on his hands and knees after missing the original tag.
So going airborne away from the tag and landing behind the BB is okay because once he passed the glove the movement away from the base path does not count toward the deviation?

I have no problem with the runner trying to get around the tag and if he could have done so and maintained the direction of the base path, I wouldn't even have thought about it. But that isn't what happened. The runner left the base path in a direction away from the plate to avoid the tag and that move carried him much farther than 3' off the base path.

Well, we will just call it differently, I guess. I would have no problem making that call with little sell.

Dakota Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:40pm
The O's got you watching MLB, Mike? ;)

My favorite team list always includes whoever is playing the Yankee$, but having to take 2 of 3 in Yankee $tadium is a tall order...

Manny A Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 857596)
OK, you ask for the softball ruling, and then continue to argue baseball? :rolleyes:
Both of my baseball responses were in answer to Big Slick, whom I thought was asking from a baseball perspective. He never mentioned "softball" or "speaking ASA" or something similar in his second post, so I thought he was still talking about the Yankees/O's game.

Big Slick Tue Oct 09, 2012 02:52pm
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 857588)

I don't have access to my softball rules right now, so I'm soliciting a rule citation under ASA, NFHS, and/or NCAA that would support your claim.
For ASA, RS #1 - Appeal and the procedure for live ball appeals. This can only happen in two different locations: first base (inclusive of the double first base) and home. If it happens at 2nd and 3rd, they would still be in jeopardy to be put out.

IRISHMAFIA Tue Oct 09, 2012 05:55pm
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 857601)
The O's got you watching MLB, Mike? ;)

My favorite team list always includes whoever is playing the Yankee$, but having to take 2 of 3 in Yankee $tadium is a tall order...
No, watching MNF and the games were on side-by-side TVs.

Gulf Coast Blue Tue Oct 09, 2012 07:42pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 857646)
No, watching MNF and the games were on side-by-side TVs.
Side by side TVs........*******.......:D

I still don't own a flat screen.

Joel

IRISHMAFIA Tue Oct 09, 2012 07:53pm
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Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue (Post 857651)
Side by side TVs........*******.......:D

I still don't own a flat screen.

Joel
It shouldn't come as a surprise to you to hear that I was in a tavern........with a group of umpires :eek:

Gulf Coast Blue Tue Oct 09, 2012 09:01pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 857653)
It shouldn't come as a surprise to you to hear that I was in a tavern........with a group of umpires :eek:
You're an O fan aren't you............:cool:


Joel

IRISHMAFIA Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:48am
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Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue (Post 857683)
You're an O fan aren't you............:cool:


Joel
Nope, not a fan of any MLB team. When I was young, it was Philadelphia.......NO, not the A's, the Phillies.

Dakota Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:54am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 857753)
Nope, not a fan of any MLB team. When I was young, it was Philadelphia.......NO, not the A's, the Phillies.
They were the Quakers then, weren't they? :)

IRISHMAFIA Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 857756)
They were the Quakers then, weren't they? :)
Nah, that was in the 1800's. I'm not that old....well, not quite. The Quakers changed their name to the Phillies in 1890.

Dakota Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:55am
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 857762)
Nah, that was in the 1800's. I'm not that old....well, not quite. The Quakers changed their name to the Phillies in 1890.
I know... I was just poking at ya... :)

7in60 Sun Oct 14, 2012 06:40pm
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Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue (Post 857534)
Ok......I have watched the video about 20 more times and will have to change my original answer. At the moment of the original tag attempt......it DOES NOT appear that Ichiro violated any baserunning rules. I also have to give the HP umpire credit for having the exact correct positioning for this play.

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.n...-1-10-8-12.gif

Joel
Thanks for this as the linked video is gone.

I agree, fantastic call by the umpire, and one that deserves to be highlighted in light of all the recent publicity bad calls have been getting.


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