Obstruction?

[MrRabbit]

I am re-posting this....

ASA rule set...

Is this another case of obstruction that should be considered and added to the obstruction rule?

R1 on first, pitcher starts the pitch, F3 moves in between R1 and the pitcher to hinder R1 from knowing when the ball is released to delay R1 from breaking for second on the the release of the ball and a possible steal.

A thought since R1 can not leave the base until the ball is released should it be OK for F3 to block her view of F1 and the release of the ball?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by MrRabbit

I am re-posting this....

ASA rule set...

Is this another case for obstruction that should be considered?

R1 on first, pitcher starts the pitch, F3 moves in between R1 and the pitcher to hinder R1 from knowing when the ball is released to delay R1 from breaking for second on the the release of the ball and a possible steal.

A thought since R1 can not leave the base until the ball is released should it be OK for F3 to block her view of F1 and the release of the ball?

Which rule is F3 violating?

[MrRabbit]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Which rule is F3 violating?

There currently is no rule, that is what this is about, should there be addition to the obstruction rule.

Since the look back rule says she can no leave the base until the ball is released by the pitcher is it right to allow F3 to block her view of the pitcher?

Would not this be giving an unfair advantage to the defense by letting them block her view of the pitcher, yet we tell R1 she can not leave until the ball is released?

[okla21fan]

How is R1 being 'impeded'? Can't she vacate the base when ever he/she wants to?

[MrRabbit]

Originally Posted by okla21fan

How is R1 being 'impeded'? Can't she vacate the base whenever he/she wants to?

Unless they have changed the look back rule she can not leave the base until the ball is released by the pitcher in her delivery to the batter?

[okla21fan]

Originally Posted by MrRabbit

Unless they have changed the look back rule she can not leave the base until the ball is released by the pitcher in her delivery to the batter?

and? what does a defensive player's position have to do with this in your scenario?

Are you suggesting now that we (by OBS definition) are going to mandate a 'line of sight'?

[MrRabbit]

Originally Posted by okla21fan

and? what does a defensive player's position have to do with this in your scenario?

Are you suggesting now that we (by OBS definition) are going to mandate a 'line of sight'?

I am not saying that. I am just say that there might be a need to level the playing field and it is not for me to make the rule but to state what I see as a concern.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MrRabbit

I am not saying that. I am just say that there might be a need to level the playing field and it is not for me to make the rule but to state what I see as a concern.

Rubbish! Sounds like a weak coach looking for an excuse. A few issues with your argument.

The pitcher MOVES during the delivery, sometimes up to 4', The runner on 1B has a box, more than 2.5' long (diag) on. which to move to get a view. How would it even be possible for and defender to STAND in one place to block the runner's view? For that matter, just how many runners at 1B see the "release" of the pitch? Answer, very few. These runners are leaving when the hand reaches the hip. It is all about timing, little to do with seeing the ball leave the pitcher's hand.

Want to "level" the playing field, maybe the corners should be forbidden to crash the plate as that would be a distraction to the runner and batter from the release of the pitch Even better, lets go back 70 years and ban bunting so that no one needs to move prior to the pitch. That way you can require all the infielders to play behind the baselines so everyone gets a clear, non-distracted view of the release of the ball.

Of even better, 70 years ago the runner could not leave the base until the ball reached or passed the batsman. That would solve everything, right?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by MrRabbit

I am not saying that. I am just say that there might be a need to level the playing field and it is not for me to make the rule but to state what I see as a concern.

Unless F3 is ENORMOUS, there's no way to block the pitcher entirely. And runners have seen enough pitching to know from the delivery when the ball is going to be released. This one is a windmill, Don Quixote.