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[SpringtownHawk]

How then is it foul?

[rwest]

Originally Posted by SpringtownHawk

How then is it foul?

Because the ball was hit a second time in foul territory. In FED you can get an out because the ball had a chance to go fair.

That was my point to the thread.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by rwest

In FED you can get an out because the ball had a chance to go fair.

But only if the umpire judges it could have gone fair.

I find it interesting that ASA doesn't have a similar ruling.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Manny A

But only if the umpire judges it could have gone fair.

I find it interesting that ASA doesn't have a similar ruling.

ASA and all baseball and softball rule sets that I know of allow for the defense to touch a ball that is foul to prevent it from becoming fair. I guess ASA believes the offense should have the same right.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by rwest

ASA and all baseball and softball rule sets that I know of allow for the defense to touch a ball that is foul to prevent it from becoming fair. I guess ASA believes the offense should have the same right.

Until you started this thread, I assumed ALL rule sets in both softball and baseball prohibited a batter from intentionally contacting a foul batted ball a second time if the umpire judged the ball could go fair.

How about this: Does ASA allow the BR to intentionally contact a foul batted ball with her bat or body as she's running up the first base line if it appears it's going to go into fair territory? If not, where's that consistency you mentioned?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Until you started this thread, I assumed ALL rule sets in both softball and baseball prohibited a batter from intentionally contacting a foul batted ball a second time if the umpire judged the ball could go fair.

How about this: Does ASA allow the BR to intentionally contact a foul batted ball with her bat or body as she's running up the first base line if it appears it's going to go into fair territory? If not, where's that consistency you mentioned?

Um ... isn't this exactly the scenario we're talking about? (And yes, body is the same)

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Um ... isn't this exactly the scenario we're talking about?

I thought Rules Supplement #24, where it says, "If, when the bat contacts the ball a batter’s entire foot is completely outside the batter’s box, the batter is out," would call for an Out in that case. The original scenario has the batter (I assume) still in the batter's box.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Until you started this thread, I assumed ALL rule sets in both softball and baseball prohibited a batter from intentionally contacting a foul batted ball a second time if the umpire judged the ball could go fair.

How about this: Does ASA allow the BR to intentionally contact a foul batted ball with her bat or body as she's running up the first base line if it appears it's going to go into fair territory? If not, where's that consistency you mentioned?

Yes, the body is the same. The batter-runner is only out if they contact a fair batted ball before reaching first base.

See 8.2.F.4

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by SpringtownHawk

How then is it foul?

Huh?