Next steps after throwing a player out

[rafking]

When you toss a player from the game due to: aggressive contact on a base, throwing a bat, or say using inappropriate language - What are the next steps, if in each case the player tossed was called safe or got a hit during the action resulting in the ejection? ASA.
Here is what I think.
1) Dead ball
2) Player is sent to the bench or told to leave the park
3) Substitute enters game and takes position on the base where the tossed player was last.
What if no subs are available?

[whiskers_ump]

Originally posted by rafking
When you toss a player from the game due to: aggressive contact on a base, throwing a bat, or say using inappropriate language - What are the next steps, if in each case the player tossed was called safe or got a hit during the action resulting in the ejection? ASA.
Here is what I think.
1) Dead ball
2) Player is sent to the bench or told to leave the park
3) Substitute enters game and takes position on the base where the tossed player was last.
What if no subs are available?

ASA Rule 4 Sec 9. C.

If a player is disqualified a team can play shorthanded,
however, if a player is ejected and the team does
not have enough players to continue, the game is forfeited.

glen

[rafking]

Can you provide example differences between disqualified and ejected? Also, an out can not be given when tossing a player, right?

[Dakota]

A disqualified player is removed for a rule violation (ASA Rule 1 - DEFINITIONS). An example: for being an unreported substitute.

An ejected player is removed for unsportsmanlike conduct or similar act. (again, DEFINITIONS).

There is some overlap in these definitions, but generally speaking, the disqualified player's infraction is more of a technical nature, whereas the ejected player's infraction is along the lines of bad behavior or cheating.

[whiskers_ump]

Originally posted by rafking
Can you provide example differences between disqualified and ejected? Also, an out can not be given when tossing a player, right?

ASA Rule 1 Definitions:

1] Disqualified player - Player removed from the game for rule violation.
A team may continue to play shorthanded if no substitutes are available.
Any disqualified player is discovered taking part in the game, it will
constitute a forfeit.

2] Ejected player - Player removed from the game usually for an unsports-
manlike act or conduct. A flagrant act will require the player to leave
the grounds for the remainder of the game. A team may not continue to play
shorthanded if no substitutes are available, the game is a forfeit. Ejected
player discovered taking part in the game would constitute a forfeit.

glen

[whiskers_ump]

Again I typed too long. He got me Scott....

glen

[Dakota]

Actually, Glen, I was quite a while with the "reply" window open... you must really be slow!

[Skahtboi]

Hmmm...I am beginning to think that Tom has some kind of a "rules interpretation alert" on his computer!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally posted by rafking
When you toss a player from the game due to: aggressive contact on a base, throwing a bat, or say using inappropriate language - What are the next steps, if in each case the player tossed was called safe or got a hit during the action resulting in the ejection? ASA.
Here is what I think.
1) Dead ball
2) Player is sent to the bench or told to leave the park
3) Substitute enters game and takes position on the base where the tossed player was last.
What if no subs are available?

Speaking ASA

First thing above all else: You cannot toss a player during a live ball period. You must kill the play or wait for it to end, then dump the player.

If offensive and the player is being ejected for USC and has not yet been put out, you kill the play, rule the player out, return all runners to the last base touched at the time of the unsportmanlike act.

If no substitute, games over.

[Dakota]

Originally posted by IRISHMAFIA
If offensive and the player is being ejected for USC and has not yet been put out, you kill the play, rule the player out, return all runners to the last base touched at the time of the unsportmanlike act.

Mike,
I assume you are using case play 10.8-1 for declaring the player out and returning the runners, since that is not provided in the rules. Right?

Before the case play was put in this year, the player was not out for USC, but was removed from the game, and a sub was put into the game in his place.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally posted by Dakota

Mike,
I assume you are using case play 10.8-1 for declaring the player out and returning the runners, since that is not provided in the rules. Right?

Before the case play was put in this year, the player was not out for USC, but was removed from the game, and a sub was put into the game in his place.

That, an answer on this years test and a directive from my Regional UIC.