Top Baseball/Softball Rules Myths, 2012 Edition

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

If one perceives action to be simultaneous, then you will definitely be wrong. You have a 50-50 chance of being correct the other way.

'I don't understand - why can not the action be perceived as simultaneous? I understand in actuality, it is extremely unlikely that you have a "tie", but .......

Originally Posted by TwoBits

I see the application of this rule mostly debated amongst softball only umpires. Most experienced baseball umpires accept that ties should not be called without question.

So? This is a softball board, isn't it?

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

'I don't understand - why can not the action be perceived as simultaneous? I understand in actuality, it is extremely unlikely that you have a "tie", but .......



So? This is a softball board, isn't it?

If you perceivea tie, your perception will be wrong. The ball or the runner got there first by at least a millionth (or billionth, or trillionth, etc.) of a second.

Yes, this is a softball board. Just making an observation. Not only are they games played two different ways, they are also officiated two different ways.

[BretMan]

If I happen to perceive a tie, then I'm going have to judge it a tie. How do you expect to rule on something that is beyond the abilities of human perception? If you perceive a tie, but still rule that one event or the other happened first, then you are just guessing at the outcome.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by BretMan

If I happen to perceive a tie, then I'm going have to judge it a tie...

What's the mechanic for that?

[ronald]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What's the mechanic for that?

shrug your shoulders and say tie goes to the rnner. everyone will agree.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by ronald

shrug your shoulders and say tie goes to the rnner. Everyone will agree.:d

+1

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What's the mechanic for that?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by BretMan

"No, she didn't go!"

Like the indicator in the left hand.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

If you perceivea tie, your perception will be wrong. The ball or the runner got there first by at least a millionth (or billionth, or trillionth, etc.) of a second.

Yes, this is a softball board. Just making an observation. Not only are they games played two different ways, they are also officiated two different ways.

Yet, MLB has the same rule, the runner or base must be touched BEFORE the runner reaches the base.

Rule 7.08

(e) He or the next base is tagged before he touches the next base, after he has been

forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner.

[HugoTafurst]

And to continue this idiotic discussion......

All we can rule on is what we perceive

1a : to attain awareness or understanding of
b : to regard as being such

2: to become aware of through the senses; especially : see, observe


if you perceive the ball hit the outside corner, it hit the outside corner..

(I will try to leave this my last comment on the subject)