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CecilOne Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 846135)
Only if you are saying that "if all exposed hinges are padded or covered" is not part of the statement. However, this phrase is part of the statement, which makes the statement false.

The "permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."
phrase says that they are permitted if padded or covered, not
"ONLY permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."

So, they are permitted either way, making the statement logically true, even if the test intended false.

rwest Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:42am

I don't agree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 846138)
The "permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."
phrase says that they are permitted if padded or covered, not
"ONLY permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."

So, they are permitted either way, making the statement logically true, even if the test intended false.

The phrase is adding a requirement not intended by rule, thus making the statement false. The question is saying that the exposed hinges have to be covered to be allowed. This is not the case.

Are you going to disallow the player to wear the brace if exposed hinges are not padded? That's what this question is getting at.

CecilOne Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 846148)
The phrase is adding a requirement not intended by rule, thus making the statement false. The question is saying that the exposed hinges have to be covered to be allowed. This is not the case.

Are you going to disallow the player to wear the brace if exposed hinges are not padded? That's what this question is getting at.

Of course not, will also allow if they are padded.

youngump Fri Jun 15, 2012 02:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 846148)
The phrase is adding a requirement not intended by rule, thus making the statement false. The question is saying that the exposed hinges have to be covered to be allowed. This is not the case.

Are you going to disallow the player to wear the brace if exposed hinges are not padded? That's what this question is getting at.

As a matter of the English language and logic, your first sentence is simply wrong. The phrase adds a requirement not intended by rule, thus not affecting the veracity of the statement at all. You can drive 60 on the freeway legally in Washington if your radio is on is a true statement.

The test means to ask: True or false: The rule is that you can wear an unmodified brace if the hinges are covered. That's false. But the statement they actually ask for is true. One of the reasons I hate test questions like that.


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