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zachary23 Thu Apr 26, 2012 05:07pm

Missed these two questions on test, what is right answer?
 
missed these two on my test today, got 48 out of 50 but they wont give answers yet



R3 is caught in a rundown between third and home. As R3 is attempting to return to third, she is obstructed by F5 and subsequently tagged while off the base by F6. Which of the following is true?

a.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner home
b.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner third base
c.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner home
d.None are correct e.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner third base

R3 is on third base and the infield is in for a potential play at the plate. B1 hits a ball sharply down the third base line. The batted ball strikes R3 while she is standing on third base. What should the umpire do?

a.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and leave R3 on third.
b.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and call R3 out.
c.Make no immediate call and the ball remains alive.
d.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Call both R3 and B1 out. e.None are correct

IRISHMAFIA Thu Apr 26, 2012 06:03pm

R3 is caught in a rundown between third and home. As R3 is attempting to return to third, she is obstructed by F5 and subsequently tagged while off the base by F6. Which of the following is true?

a.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner home
b.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner third base
c.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner home
d.None are correct e.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner third base

R3 is on third base and the infield is in for a potential play at the plate. B1 hits a ball sharply down the third base line. The batted ball strikes R3 while she is standing on third base. What should the umpire do? The assumption is this is a fair ball

a.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and leave R3 on third.
b.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and call R3 out.
c.Make no immediate call and the ball remains alive.
d.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Call both R3 and B1 out. e.None are correct

azbigdawg Fri Apr 27, 2012 01:50am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 839058)
R3 is caught in a rundown between third and home. As R3 is attempting to return to third, she is obstructed by F5 and subsequently tagged while off the base by F6. Which of the following is true?

a.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner home
b.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner third base
c.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner home
d.None are correct e.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner third base

R3 is on third base and the infield is in for a potential play at the plate. B1 hits a ball sharply down the third base line. The batted ball strikes R3 while she is standing on third base. What should the umpire do? The assumption is this is a fair ball

a.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and leave R3 on third.
b.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and call R3 out.
c.Make no immediate call and the ball remains alive.
d.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Call both R3 and B1 out. e.None are correct



What Whitey said....

ASA/NYSSOBLUE Fri Apr 27, 2012 06:12am

Quote:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 839058)
R3 is caught in a rundown between third and home. As R3 is attempting to return to third, she is obstructed by F5 and subsequently tagged while off the base by F6. Which of the following is true?

a.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner home
b.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner third base
c.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner home
d.None are correct e.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner third base

R3 is on third base and the infield is in for a potential play at the plate. B1 hits a ball sharply down the third base line. The batted ball strikes R3 while she is standing on third base. What should the umpire do? The assumption is this is a fair ball

a.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and leave R3 on third.
b.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and call R3 out.
c.Make no immediate call and the ball remains alive.
d.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Call both R3 and B1 out. e.None are correct

And be prepared for screaming from the OC on question 1....

IRISHMAFIA Fri Apr 27, 2012 06:53am

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Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE (Post 839111)
And be prepared for screaming from the OC on question 1....

I actually had the privilege of making that exact call in HOF Stadium a few years back.

Heard it from the entire 3B dugout until I told them one person for discussion.

Coach: What kind of call is that?
Me: OBS, third baseman
Coach: But she threw the ball to the catcher
Me: Correct and then failed to get out of the base path, runner had to go around her
Coach: But she just threw the ball to the catcher
Me: You are absolutely correct; And then she OBS the runner
Coach: But she threw...........

Guess he didn't like the smile on my face at that point in time and retreated to the dugout. :D Sometimes coaches provide some great entertainment.

MD Longhorn Fri Apr 27, 2012 09:04am

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Originally Posted by zachary23 (Post 839045)
missed these two on my test today, got 48 out of 50 but they wont give answers yet



R3 is caught in a rundown between third and home. As R3 is attempting to return to third, she is obstructed by F5 and subsequently tagged while off the base by F6. Which of the following is true?

a.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner home
b.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner third base
c.The umpire should signal a delayed dead ball when the obstruction occurs, call dead ball when R3 is tagged out, and award the runner home
d.None are correct e.The umpire should call dead ball immediately when the obstruction occurs, and award the runner third base

R3 is on third base and the infield is in for a potential play at the plate. B1 hits a ball sharply down the third base line. The batted ball strikes R3 while she is standing on third base. What should the umpire do?

a.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and leave R3 on third.
b.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Award B1 first base and call R3 out.
c.Make no immediate call and the ball remains alive.
d.Call an immediate dead ball for hitting R3. Call both R3 and B1 out. e.None are correct

Mike gave the answers --- what did you initially answer, and why? What do the relevant rules say?

Andy Fri Apr 27, 2012 09:46am

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Originally Posted by azbigdawg (Post 839096)
What Whitey said....

Wait.......I thought Steve was Whitey.......:confused::confused:

azbigdawg Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:37am

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Originally Posted by Andy (Post 839128)
Wait.......I thought Steve was Whitey.......:confused::confused:

I get them confused..they all look alike... white...old...:p

Tru_in_Blu Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:41am

I got this question wrong on the NFHS test:

Knee and ankle braces that are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production are permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered.

True or False


How would you answer?

I have the scored answer and reference, but don't have my Fed book with me. Will check the reference later.

RKBUmp Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:55am

3-2-13. I believe that was one of the changes from last year. No padding required if unaltered from manufacture

Crabby_Bob Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:58am

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Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 845964)
I got this question wrong on the NFHS test:

Knee and ankle braces that are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production are permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered.

True or False


How would you answer?

I have the scored answer and reference, but don't have my Fed book with me. Will check the reference later.

3-2-13: Hard and unyielding items (guards, casts, braces, splints, etc.) must be padded with a closed-cell, slow-recovery foam padding no less than 1/2" think. Knee and ankle braces which are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production do not require any additional padding/covering.

youngump Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 845964)
I got this question wrong on the NFHS test:

Knee and ankle braces that are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production are permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered.

True or False


How would you answer?

I have the scored answer and reference, but don't have my Fed book with me. Will check the reference later.

I'd answer true on a logic test, but I'd say they expect false. Usually I assume a question worded like this means. The rule is that: .... Which is false, even though the statement is true.

tcblue13 Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu (Post 845964)
I got this question wrong on the NFHS test:

Knee and ankle braces that are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production are permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered.

True or False


How would you answer?

I have the scored answer and reference, but don't have my Fed book with me. Will check the reference later.

3.2.13 Knee and ankle braces which are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production do not require any additional padding/covering.

CecilOne Thu Jun 14, 2012 04:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcblue13 (Post 845971)
3.2.13 Knee and ankle braces which are unaltered from the manufacturer's original design/production do not require any additional padding/covering.

Which makes the answer false, even though the statement is true. :(

rwest Fri Jun 15, 2012 09:54am

Only If....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 846009)
Which makes the answer false, even though the statement is true. :(

Only if you are saying that "if all exposed hinges are padded or covered" is not part of the statement. However, this phrase is part of the statement, which makes the statement false.

CecilOne Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:05am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 846135)
Only if you are saying that "if all exposed hinges are padded or covered" is not part of the statement. However, this phrase is part of the statement, which makes the statement false.

The "permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."
phrase says that they are permitted if padded or covered, not
"ONLY permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."

So, they are permitted either way, making the statement logically true, even if the test intended false.

rwest Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:42am

I don't agree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 846138)
The "permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."
phrase says that they are permitted if padded or covered, not
"ONLY permitted if all exposed hinges are padded or covered."

So, they are permitted either way, making the statement logically true, even if the test intended false.

The phrase is adding a requirement not intended by rule, thus making the statement false. The question is saying that the exposed hinges have to be covered to be allowed. This is not the case.

Are you going to disallow the player to wear the brace if exposed hinges are not padded? That's what this question is getting at.

CecilOne Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 846148)
The phrase is adding a requirement not intended by rule, thus making the statement false. The question is saying that the exposed hinges have to be covered to be allowed. This is not the case.

Are you going to disallow the player to wear the brace if exposed hinges are not padded? That's what this question is getting at.

Of course not, will also allow if they are padded.

youngump Fri Jun 15, 2012 02:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 846148)
The phrase is adding a requirement not intended by rule, thus making the statement false. The question is saying that the exposed hinges have to be covered to be allowed. This is not the case.

Are you going to disallow the player to wear the brace if exposed hinges are not padded? That's what this question is getting at.

As a matter of the English language and logic, your first sentence is simply wrong. The phrase adds a requirement not intended by rule, thus not affecting the veracity of the statement at all. You can drive 60 on the freeway legally in Washington if your radio is on is a true statement.

The test means to ask: True or false: The rule is that you can wear an unmodified brace if the hinges are covered. That's false. But the statement they actually ask for is true. One of the reasons I hate test questions like that.


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