To bail out or not to bail out?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by azbigdawg

...To call it... you almost have to assume that he's not looking, or has no idea what he's looking at...

Originally Posted by azbigdawg

.. the consensus has always been that it's one of those things thats better left to the base umpire. (credibility).

Originally Posted by Andy

... and the BU looks bad because he is not calling something that is very close to him.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

As PU, runner on 2nd leaves so early no one can miss it. BU doesn't call it. Next pitch same thing, do you bail him out or let him twist in the wind?

What was your point, again?

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by Dakota

What was your point, again?

Ill put it like this then, since you missed my point. He's twisting until the half inning when I can chat with him and figure out what is going on.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by azbigdawg

Ill put it like this then, since you missed my point. He's twisting until the half inning when I can chat with him and figure out what is going on.

It's likely that YOU would not have failed to call it - you are not a rookie who either doesn't know the rules or doesn't know his responsibilities. PU should not ignore an obvious infraction just to appease a BU who is not doing his job (for whatever reason). Especially an infraction such as the OP where "everyone" saw it but BU. Twice. Allowing it to continue gives an advantage to the offense not intended by the rules, and DOES make the crew look bad.

And in our neck of the woods, making such a call is not abnormal. Making this call at third or first might generate some cause for consternation --- but 2B is right in the sight-line of the plate umpire.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by azbigdawg

Ill put it like this then, since you missed my point. He's twisting until the half inning when I can chat with him and figure out what is going on.

I didn't miss your point; perhaps you missed my sarcasm. In the OPs example, the umpire crew (and especially the BU) already look bad and have lost credibility. Not making the call makes things worse wrt credibility.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

perhaps you missed my sarcasm.

That early in AZ requires

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I didn't miss your point; perhaps you missed my sarcasm. In the OPs example, the umpire crew (and especially the BU) already look bad and have lost credibility. Not making the call makes things worse wrt credibility.

Sorry...not trying to be a jerk..just trying to get info. I apologize if I was rude.....

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by azbigdawg

Sorry...not trying to be a jerk..just trying to get info. I apologize if I was rude.....

No worries; I didn't take what you wrote as rude.