To bail out or not to bail out?

SNIPERBBB · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 10, 2012, 05:59pm

As PU, runner on 2nd leaves so early noone can miss it. BU doesn't call it. Next pitch same thing, do you bail him out or let him twist in the wind?

IRISHMAFIA · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 10, 2012, 06:44pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

As PU, runner on 2nd leaves so early noone can miss it. BU doesn't call it. Next pitch same thing, do you bail him out or let him twist in the wind?

You're in the best position to see it. If the runner left so early it caught your attention, call the infraction.

EsqUmp · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 10, 2012, 07:31pm

One code that specifically grants permission to the plate umpire to make that call is PONY.

IRISHMAFIA · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 10, 2012, 09:07pm

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp

One code that specifically grants permission to the plate umpire to make that call is PONY.

"grants permission"? Are you kidding me?

bkbjones · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 11, 2012, 04:22am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

"grants permission"? Are you kidding me?

grants permission. Must be another reason to Protect Our Nation's Youth.

I've done it ... had a guy who was a great slow pitch umpire, decided he wanted a taste of school ball. It was 20-0, he was living in "C" all night, ever other half inning. Had runners at first and third. Runner at first was darn near on top of 2nd before the pitch was out of the circle.

EsqUmp · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:23am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

"grants permission"? Are you kidding me?

No, I'm not kidding you. The manual specifically says the plate umpire can call it. What's your problem with that?

IRISHMAFIA · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 11, 2012, 07:22am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp

No, I'm not kidding you. The manual specifically says the plate umpire can call it. What's your problem with that?

My problem is that someone feels the need to "grant permission" to an umpire to call an observed infraction, especially one which is directly in the umpire's line of vision.

And remember, we are not talking about a "gotta think about it", but an obvious infraction.

azbigdawg · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:17pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You're in the best position to see it. If the runner left so early it caught your attention, call the infraction.

One of the few times I am going to disagree...

To call it... you almost have to assume that he's not looking, or has no idea what he's looking at.

It sounds like a between innings chat to me..

and Yes sir, I AM aware that both fed mechanics and ASA mechanics dont forbid it.

Gulf Coast Blue · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Apr 11, 2012, 06:21pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

As PU, runner on 2nd leaves so early noone can miss it. BU doesn't call it. Next pitch same thing, do you bail him out or let him twist in the wind?

Leaving early is like obstruction......if you see it........call it.

No need for permission.

Joel