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Tag up at third
R1 on third. B1 hits a liner to F7. BU hustles inside from the "C". Turns to find the ball and hears "catch" from the PU. BU was not able to watch R1 as she left the base. Ball comes in to F5 AT THIRD BASE as R1 slides in a step late. (ie... IF she left early she is out. If a proper "tag-up" was made, the call is safe). What would you do?
Yes, this happened to me yesterday 
Last edited by DRJ1960; Fri Mar 23, 2012 at 03:26pm. Reason: lack of adequate detail 
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:22pm
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So, it is either a live ball appeal with an out or it is a safe at 3B. And your question is, "Who has the tag up responsibility at 3B with a lone runner? Just guessing ...  
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:23pm
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:23pm
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I'm going to assume that the OP means that R1 was sliding back into 3rd base after the catch was made (i.e. wouldn't have made it home regardless).
Initially, you'd have to ascertain whether the players were making an appeal on leaving early or a play on a runner off base (the no accidental appeal discussion). If the former, you weren't able to see whether they left early and therefore the initial call would be 'safe' pending any further discussions/information. If the latter, unless a tag was applied before the runner slide into 3rd, also 'safe'.
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:23pm
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:27pm
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When we leave the conference, I (BU) am either confirming my call, or changing it; not having the PU appear to overturn my call by announcing his ruling on the appeal. There is no good way on this play; PU has the tag, but generally unable to get close enough, along with expecting a possible play at the plate. BU doesn't have tag responsibility, but has an apparent play back into third. make your (safe) call, then get together.
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:52pm
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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 03:57pm
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He does this BECAUSE he is a top-notch umpire. 
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