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Old Thu Jan 05, 2012, 10:42am
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If they are worth anything it is merely a deterent, but still the only people that get flagged are the ones who have already been caught.
and doing nothing will not 'deter' anyone who has previous issues.

Spent many a meetings with my city's park board concerning this very issue, and the consensus is pretty much what you say when it comes to 'preventing those who have not been caught'. Legally, there is little an organization can do to stop that for obvious reasons. However, the City's stance is that want to do everything in their power to prevent those who have been caught before (and yes, they understand that is not 100% effective)

Doing nothing, prevents nothing is their mantra. They are very careful to spell this out while also spelling out the flaws aswell to the parents and this is a continual educational process. These checks not only include coaches, but umpires, adult concession workers and board members. My only 'stipulation' that I had to fight for was the source of the check, and convinced them that ASA's ACE program would be the most secure and private. (at first they were willing to let some 'local yokel' perform the checks. and we all know the problems that could occur with that)

I simply have no problem with this. (and I give up much more 'privacy info', submitting a resume and applying online for a jobs these days

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Old Thu Jan 05, 2012, 01:16pm
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and doing nothing will not 'deter' anyone who has previous issues.
Well, not even to that good of an extent as we are lucky to get 2 of 10 to pass. If we get 4 of 10, we think we hit the lottery. That means that nearly 80% of those caught still believe they can get by it.

And I will still stand on the point that if an umpire is alone with a child, something is wrong and no check of any type is going to prevent that.

BTW, I believe it should be pointed out that the entire episode which led to this heightened awareness this year had absolutely nothing to do with softball or players, ASA, HS or otherwise.

Then again, if we did BIs on everyone who is permitted a level of responsibility, there would be a very large, empty buildings between the D Streets in the center of DC
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2012, 01:24pm
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Mike,
Honest question here: You say your company runs a much stronger 'check(s)' yet you still have issues. If that is the case, why run those checks in the first place?
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Old Thu Jan 05, 2012, 06:25pm
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Mike,
Honest question here: You say your company runs a much stronger 'check(s)' yet you still have issues. If that is the case, why run those checks in the first place?
Because of the nature of the business; To satisfy the insurance companies, customers/banks and firearms laws and regulations.

And it still doesn't keep the bad guys out.
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