Could we have done this different?

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

While I agree with other people saying the focus HAS to be on the lead runner... your statement here confuses me. What is "way too long to be focusing..."? He mentions no time frame - it could be (and often is) that the runner is rounding 2nd right as the play at first happens. There's no "too long" here. Angle is irrelevant too (although it sounds like OP's angle was right).

seriously blue? (another of my fav. coach questions).... but no, seriously?. read the last few lines of the OP and tell me what the PU was focusing on?.

that being said.... if he was "focusing on/trying to get" the "must get the pull or no pull" his angle had to be poor to pickup the lead runner. or did he mess up both?.... i couldnt say.

2-man isnt perfect... but done well, this shouldnt have been a problem.

(assuming there was actually OBS to begin with..... assuming)

and a parting shot.... since when is angle EVER irrelevant? .... EVER?..... maybe im old skool..... angle is everything.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

seriously blue? (another of my fav. coach questions).... but no, seriously?. read the last few lines of the OP and tell me what the PU was focusing on?.

I don't read into his statement that he NEVER looked at his primary ... just that he wasn't when he should have been - I can see how you read it that way though.

and a parting shot.... since when is angle EVER irrelevant? .... EVER?..... maybe im old skool..... angle is everything.

Ever? On a play like this one. Angle is critical on tags, often on catches, occasionally on forces. But on THIS play, where PU's primary is not a tag, catch, or force ... how would angle have affected him at all? Even if it would, 3 steps one way or the other changes his angle on a play that's 85ish feet away, what, 7 degrees? I can't even imagine a play where 7 degrees is the difference between seeing and not seeing obstruction, 85 feet away.

[HugoTafurst]

(Going from memory)
I was about 15' up 1st base line and about 6' off the line.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I don't read into his statement that he NEVER looked at his primary ... just that he wasn't when he should have been - I can see how you read it that way though.

Ever? On a play like this one. Angle is critical on tags, often on catches, occasionally on forces. But on THIS play, where PU's primary is not a tag, catch, or force ... how would angle have affected him at all? Even if it would, 3 steps one way or the other changes his angle on a play that's 85ish feet away, what, 7 degrees? I can't even imagine a play where 7 degrees is the difference between seeing and not seeing obstruction, 85 feet away.

hrmmm... the greater the distance looked at , the more a lesser degree change is going to impact what you can or cannot see? ........ epiphany....

I'm not gonna quibble about this any more...... we can discuss .034" and .00005 degrees till we are blue in the face...

I simply contend that, the poster was in the wrong place BECAUSE he was trying to obtain an un-needed piece for his partner (pulled foot) thereby not focusing on his primary and missing the possible obstruction.... possible, because the coach said it happend... more possible because the umpire couldnt say it didnt happen.

have a great weekend.