What's the Call?

[tcannizzo]

ASA
Batter with 3-0 count during an intentional walk situation.
Batter does not want the next pitch to be Ball 4.
Pitchout on the way, way off the plate.
Batter throws the bat at the ball and makes contact with the ball that settles in fair territory. (Bottom line, bat is not in batter's hands at time of bat contact with ball).

What's the call?

[RKBUmp]

Nothing in the ASA definition of batted ball says the bat must be in the batters hands at the time of contact. Its simply a pitched ball that has hit the bat and lands in fair or foul territory.

As long as the batter did not have a foot completely outside the batters box at the time the bat contacted the ball, legally batted ball.

[DeputyUICHousto]

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

For attempting to hit the ball? Good luck with that.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far. I'd probably tell the batter to knock that crap off, but I don't think I'd eject her for USC.

[jr131981]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far. I'd probably tell the batter to knock that crap off, but I don't think I'd eject her for USC.

id congratulate her and shake her hand if she could pull that move off.

just out of curiosity for the OP, how did the batter throw the bat? did she let go during a normal swing and the bat helicoptered? did she sorta square to bunt and toss the bat towards the other batters box?....

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far. I'd probably tell the batter to knock that crap off, but I don't think I'd eject her for USC.

Really? Why - what did the batter do that is illegal or even unsportsmanlike. I would suggest you not go running around telling players to "knock off crap" that is not, in fact, against the rules.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Really? Why - what did the batter do that is illegal or even unsportsmanlike. I would suggest you not go running around telling players to "knock off crap" that is not, in fact, against the rules.

No, but it's engaging in a potentially and highly unsafe behavior on the field.

Mind you, I wouldn't use the same "knock that crap off" phrase to the player or coach.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

Oh Dear God.

That's worse than you pulling a player out of the dugout to explain a call to last week.

If you're kidding, it didn't come across that way.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

I had this scenario given to me when I qualified for ISF.
If the bat hits the ball and the player is in the box (both feet) then you have a fair batted ball.
I can't remember which NCAA team it was that was doing this in a bunt situation and it was legal then.
Now, I haven't worked games in a few years but I don't know of any rule change that would address this.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

ASA
Batter with 3-0 count during an intentional walk situation.
Batter does not want the next pitch to be Ball 4.
Pitchout on the way, way off the plate.
Batter throws the bat at the ball and makes contact with the ball that settles in fair territory. (Bottom line, bat is not in batter's hands at time of bat contact with ball).

What's the call?

Fair Ball.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Standard answer.

If no rule makes 'x' illegal, it is legal. Apply rules that exist.

There are definitions for "Batted Ball" and "Illegally Batted Ball"; there is an entire Chapter (Rule 7) addressing "Batting". Nothings says that is anything but a batted ball in fair territory.

There is only one call, already made by MnBlue; point fair and proceed.