What's the Call?

[RKBUmp]

Nothing in the ASA definition of batted ball says the bat must be in the batters hands at the time of contact. Its simply a pitched ball that has hit the bat and lands in fair or foul territory.

As long as the batter did not have a foot completely outside the batters box at the time the bat contacted the ball, legally batted ball.

[DeputyUICHousto]

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

For attempting to hit the ball? Good luck with that.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far. I'd probably tell the batter to knock that crap off, but I don't think I'd eject her for USC.

[jr131981]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far. I'd probably tell the batter to knock that crap off, but I don't think I'd eject her for USC.

id congratulate her and shake her hand if she could pull that move off.

just out of curiosity for the OP, how did the batter throw the bat? did she let go during a normal swing and the bat helicoptered? did she sorta square to bunt and toss the bat towards the other batters box?....

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Yeah, I don't think I'd go that far. I'd probably tell the batter to knock that crap off, but I don't think I'd eject her for USC.

Really? Why - what did the batter do that is illegal or even unsportsmanlike. I would suggest you not go running around telling players to "knock off crap" that is not, in fact, against the rules.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Really? Why - what did the batter do that is illegal or even unsportsmanlike. I would suggest you not go running around telling players to "knock off crap" that is not, in fact, against the rules.

No, but it's engaging in a potentially and highly unsafe behavior on the field.

Mind you, I wouldn't use the same "knock that crap off" phrase to the player or coach.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

No, but it's engaging in a potentially and highly unsafe behavior on the field.

Mind you, I wouldn't use the same "knock that crap off" phrase to the player or coach.

Highly unsafe??????
We must be picturing something completely different.


I guess with that kind of thinking, we better remove the hit and run from the playbook!

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Highly unsafe??????
We must be picturing something completely different.


I guess with that kind of thinking, we better remove the hit and run from the playbook!

That could be.

I'm picturing the batter kind of "chucking" the bat out a ways.

We now have a bat that, upon impact with the ball, is completely out of anyone's control near the catcher (and possibly me), probably spinning wildly.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

No, but it's engaging in a potentially and highly unsafe behavior on the field.

Mind you, I wouldn't use the same "knock that crap off" phrase to the player or coach.

Highly unsafe? Probably less unsafe than a regular base hit... who in the world is the batter going to hurt throwing his bat toward a pitch so bad he couldn't hit it otherwise? And the ball's not going to come off very hard. Why in the world would you consider this unsafe.

Let me take it a step further and remove the opinion out of it... don't you believe that if TPTB wanted such an action to be against the rules or considered it unsafe (especially considering some of the other safety rules out there), that TPTB would have put a prohibition of this action in the rulebook? What do you read from them not doing so?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Highly unsafe? Probably less unsafe than a regular base hit... who in the world is the batter going to hurt throwing his bat toward a pitch so bad he couldn't hit it otherwise? And the ball's not going to come off very hard. Why in the world would you consider this unsafe.

Let me take it a step further and remove the opinion out of it... don't you believe that if TPTB wanted such an action to be against the rules or considered it unsafe (especially considering some of the other safety rules out there), that TPTB would have put a prohibition of this action in the rulebook? What do you read from them not doing so?

Hey, ease up off the recent SP-to-FP convert here.

Again, I've not seen it happen, and maybe what I have pictured in my mind is not exactly how it'd go down. What I'm picturing is a pitch-out striking the bat in mid-air, causing it to tumble around, probably in the catcher's direction.

I'd have to see it with my own eyes.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

Oh Dear God.

That's worse than you pulling a player out of the dugout to explain a call to last week.

If you're kidding, it didn't come across that way.

[scottk_61]

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto

but I think I'd have unsportsmanlike conduct for throwing the bat. The batter would be ejected and I'd be looking for a sub. If no sub is available then we have another ruling to make.

I had this scenario given to me when I qualified for ISF.
If the bat hits the ball and the player is in the box (both feet) then you have a fair batted ball.
I can't remember which NCAA team it was that was doing this in a bunt situation and it was legal then.
Now, I haven't worked games in a few years but I don't know of any rule change that would address this.