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DeputyUICHousto Tue Jul 12, 2011 09:16am

Had this happen to another umpire crew this past weekend.
 
What would you do?

Bottom of 7th and home team down by one run. Runner on 2nd base with one out. Batter hits a high pop fly to the short stop. Umpire calls "infield fly, batter out!" Batted ball is not caught. Batter, assuming he is out doesn't run but does not enter dugout. Ball is returned to the pitcher. Umpires realize their mistake and get together to talk.

What would you do in this situation? I'll tell you what happened later.

Dakota Tue Jul 12, 2011 09:26am

Put the batter-runner on 1B (even if the BR had entered the dugout). Leave R1 on 2B. Explain the mistake and the resolution to the coaches.

I'd guess the resolution was more "interesting" than that? :)

RKBUmp Tue Jul 12, 2011 09:28am

Place the batter at 1st and be ready to eat a lot of crap from the defensive coach.

Andy Tue Jul 12, 2011 09:40am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 771983)
Put the batter-runner on 1B (even if the BR had entered the dugout). Leave R1 on 2B. Explain the mistake and the resolution to the coaches.

I'd guess the resolution was more "interesting" than that? :)

Agree...on both comments.

Dakota Tue Jul 12, 2011 10:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKBUmp (Post 771987)
Place the batter at 1st and be ready to eat a lot of crap from the defensive coach.

"Coach, the purpose of the IFR is to protect the offense from a cheap double play, not provide a gift out to the defense that they cannot execute well enough to earn." {end of crap from DC}

DBull Tue Jul 12, 2011 02:23pm

It is the responsability of each player and coach to be aware of the IFR. Just because umpires either fail to call the IFR when in effect, or call the IFR in error when it is not in effect makes no difference. Keep the ball live and play on.

7in60 Tue Jul 12, 2011 03:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RKBUmp (Post 771987)
Place the batter at 1st and be ready to eat a lot of crap from the defensive coach.

This.

DeputyUICHousto Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:27am

I would agree...
 
put the batter at 1st base, leave the runner at second and play on.

Unfortunately, in this case the umpire crew called a "mulligan" and allowed the batter to bat again. He promptly hit a two run walk-off home run.

OUCH!!!

LIUmp Wed Jul 13, 2011 07:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBull (Post 772075)
It is the responsability of each player and coach to be aware of the IFR. Just because umpires either fail to call the IFR when in effect, or call the IFR in error when it is not in effect makes no difference. Keep the ball live and play on.

It makes a lot of difference. Failure to call IF is one thing, which must be rectified, but to call IF when it does NOT apply puts the offense in jeopardy. The correct call is to put the BR on 1st and keep the runner on second. But to do what you say is leading to a protestable situation.

Andy Wed Jul 13, 2011 09:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeputyUICHousto (Post 772175)
put the batter at 1st base, leave the runner at second and play on.

Unfortunately, in this case the umpire crew called a "mulligan" and allowed the batter to bat again. He promptly hit a two run walk-off home run.

OUCH!!!

OUCH is right!!!!!:eek:

I can't believe nobody questioned this "resolution"??????:confused:

BretMan Wed Jul 13, 2011 12:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 771996)
"Coach, the purpose of the IFR is to protect the offense from a cheap double play, not provide a gift out to the defense that they cannot execute well enough to earn." {end of crap from DC}

Yes...because well-reasoned and logical explanations always put an end to any arguments from a ticked-off coach who is arguing about something he shouldn't be arguing about in the first place! :D

HugoTafurst Wed Jul 13, 2011 01:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 772307)
Yes...because well-reasoned and logical explanations always put an end to any arguments from a ticked-off coach who is arguing about something he shouldn't be arguing about in the first place! :D

I know what youi mean!!:rolleyes:

Dakota Wed Jul 13, 2011 01:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 772307)
Yes...because well-reasoned and logical explanations always put an end to any arguments from a ticked-off coach who is arguing about something he shouldn't be arguing about in the first place! :D

Well, if it doesn't, then maybe he hears about how the game ended from his assistant! ;)

shagpal Wed Jul 13, 2011 04:25pm

you can't unring a bell.

Dakota Wed Jul 13, 2011 06:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by shagpal (Post 772342)
you can't unring a bell.

What bell would that be?


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