Infield Fly Rule - ASA vs. NFHS

[Stat-Man]

Does ASA have any language anywhere that the force is removed on an infield fly?

ASA's definition of an infield fly in rule 1 is:

A fair fly ball, not including a line drive or an attempted bunt, which can be caught by an infielder, pitcher, or catcher with ordinary effort when first and second, or first, second, and third base are occupied with less than two outs.

NFHS 2-30 defines the infield fly as (emphasis mine):

Infield fly rule is, when declared by the umpire, a fair fly (not including a line drive or an attempted bunt) that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort when runners are on first and second or all three bases are occupied and before there are two outs in an inning. Any defensive player positioned in the infield at the time of the pitch shall be considered an infielder for purposes of this rule. The rule does not preclude outfielders from being permitted to make the catch. The ball is live, the batter is out, which removes the force, but runners may advance at their own risk. The runners may tag up and advance as soon as the batted ball is touched by a fielder. If a declared infield fly becomes foul, it is treated as a foul ball, not an infield fly.

Is there anythign similar to NFHS 2-30 in the ASA rule book that I'm missing?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Yeah, the part where is states the batter-runner is out when an infield fly is declared. That is 8.2.I

Guess NFHS figures their folks aren't smart enough to figure that out.

[Stat-Man]

Had the play happen tonight in our kickball game. Runners onf 1st & 2nd with nobody out.

Batter kicks an infield fly and umpire calls IF. Ball hits the ground and both runners advance and F4 throws to F6 who touches second and runner was rang up "on the force." Umpire was pretty sure that advancing at own risk meant the force was still on. Oh well.

But now I know (and knowing is half the battle... GI Joe!)

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Yeah, the part where is states the batter-runner is out when an infield fly is declared. That is 8.2.I

Guess NFHS figures their folks aren't smart enough to figure that out.

Yes, the NFHS book is very overly-elaborate in certain places. I particularly love rule 8-8: "The runner is not out".

[CecilOne]

It's for those non-coaches faculty members.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

It's for those non-coaches faculty members.

^^^^
Truth spoken right here! Especially at the middle school level.

[Az.Ump]

Kickball? Is that on ESPN 8 "The Ocho"? Under FED isn't an offensive player who intentionally kicks the ball out or guilty of interference? Do they have a cheat sheet for rules differences between FED, NCAA and OKBR ?

Just wondering,
Paul

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

Kickball? Is that on ESPN 8 "The Ocho"? Under FED isn't an offensive player who intentionally kicks the ball out or guilty of interference? Do they have a cheat sheet for rules differences between FED, NCAA and OKBR ?

Just wondering,
Paul

No, that's Dodgeball.

"Necessary?"

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Az.Ump

Under FED isn't an offensive player who intentionally kicks the ball out or guilty of interference?

Not if A) the pitcher rolls the ball toward the plate and B) the ball is rubber and much larger than a softball...

[tcannizzo]

or C) the ball is in foul territory, even after coming off the bat, and might even have the possibility of rolling fair.

[Az.Ump]

Bats in kickball

Paul

[tcannizzo]

Didn't know K-ball was serious.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

Didn't know K-ball was serious.

I don't know...it seemed pretty serious at recess in sixth grade...I do remember getting into fights with some of the other kids over close calls and rule interpretations!