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MD Longhorn Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:54pm
Was really wondering about thoughts HERE ... in softball, under softball rules.

youngump Tue Aug 24, 2010 01:04pm
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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 689917)
Was really wondering about thoughts HERE ... in softball, under softball rules.
When would it matter, but without checking my book I'd guess in softball a catch is a play all codes.
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RadioBlue Tue Aug 24, 2010 01:16pm
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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 689917)
Was really wondering about thoughts HERE ... in softball, under softball rules.
Rule 2 SECTION 47 “PLAY BALL,” MAKE A PLAY, INITIAL PLAY
ART. 2 . . . Make a Play.
b. Any action by a fielder who is attempting to catch or gain control of a batted or thrown ball.
c. An attempt by a defensive player to retire a runner or a batter-runner.
ART. 3 . . .Initial Play. A fielder is considered to be making an initial play on a fair batted ball when she:
b. Has a reasonable chance to catch the ball in flight or catch the ball in flight after it touches another fielder.

MD Longhorn Tue Aug 24, 2010 01:39pm
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Originally Posted by youngump (Post 689921)
When would it matter, but without checking my book I'd guess in softball a catch is a play all codes.
Interestingly, this is NOT a play in baseball... not that that matters here.

When would it matter? The revised play in this thread for one. Catch is made after the runner has advanced a base, then the ball is thrown out of play. if the catch is a play, the throw is NOT the first throw of an infielder, and the base award is TOT, not TOP. If the catch is not a play, the throw is the first play by an infielder, and the award is TOP, not TOT.

youngump Tue Aug 24, 2010 01:47pm
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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 689936)
Interestingly, this is NOT a play in baseball... not that that matters here.

When would it matter? The revised play in this thread for one. Catch is made after the runner has advanced a base, then the ball is thrown out of play. if the catch is a play, the throw is NOT the first throw of an infielder, and the base award is TOT, not TOP. If the catch is not a play, the throw is the first play by an infielder, and the award is TOP, not TOT.
But softball doesn't have that rule.
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AtlUmpSteve Tue Aug 24, 2010 01:53pm
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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 689936)
Interestingly, this is NOT a play in baseball... not that that matters here.

When would it matter? The revised play in this thread for one. Catch is made after the runner has advanced a base, then the ball is thrown out of play. if the catch is a play, the throw is NOT the first throw of an infielder, and the base award is TOT, not TOP. If the catch is not a play, the throw is the first play by an infielder, and the award is TOP, not TOT.
Yeah, not in softball. That is why it is totally academic as to baseball.

In softball, in absolutely every case, two bases from the time of throw. Period. First or subsequent, infielder or outfielder. Two bases, time of throw.

MD Longhorn Tue Aug 24, 2010 01:55pm
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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 689947)
Yeah, not in softball. That is why it is totally academic as to baseball.

In softball, in absolutely every case, two bases from the time of throw. Period. First or subsequent, infielder or outfielder. Two bases, time of throw.
Yes, much easier and more consistent in softball.


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