Your chance to wipe out a bad mechanic

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

Are you saying that keeping more of the field/play in front of you is not advantageous?

That is not always true and is part of the falacy.

[topper]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

That is not always true and is part of the falacy.

What is "the " falacy"?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

What is "the " falacy"?

The falacy is when people preach about having everything in front of you. Unless the umpire works from foul territory, they are not going to have everything in front of them any more than an umpire working I/O.

You know, this isn't anything new to me. I was working outside in the 90's for BP. It took a lot for the crews to digest since there was little to no training, but we all got it by the second day. Then again, that was national qualified umpires in a three-umpire system. But we also learned that it did not fit every situation even when some others would prescribe it.

And I have worked it recently in some local womens/18U games, but not exclusively. The problem that I see often are umpires who take the mechanic to the grave whether the situation calls for an adjustment or not.

[topper]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

The problem that I see often are umpires who take the mechanic to the grave whether the situation calls for an adjustment or not.

I don't think I ever said that outside was ALWAYS the best or only option. That would be extemely short-sighted.

You were the one that challenged anyone to come up wtih a situation where rimming was advantageous to I/O. So who is taking a mechanic to the grave?

I have not seen where ASA allows for much "adjustment" anyway.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

I don't think I ever said that outside was ALWAYS the best or only option. That would be extemely short-sighted.

You were the one that challenged anyone to come up wtih a situation where rimming was advantageous to I/O. So who is taking a mechanic to the grave?

You must have one helluva guilty conscience. Did I say you?

I have not seen where ASA allows for much "adjustment" anyway.

Well, folks can scoff all they please, but Chuck said it earlier. Training that many people to execute an advanced method and being able to recognize when it would be helpful is problematic. I've said it before on this board and I'll repeat what BP said. ASA needs to forget about the Advanced Umpire School (now Camp) and replace it with a School for Advanced Umpiring.

Most of the umpires I see stay outside do so out of laziness and god help the team who cuts a throw home and shoots it back to 3B 'cause there ain't gonna be an umpire there to make the call.

[topper]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You must have one helluva guilty conscience. Did I say you?

What?

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, folks can scoff all they please, but Chuck said it earlier. Training that many people to execute an advanced method and being able to recognize when it would be helpful is problematic.

So you teach them a inferior method and turn them loose, never to be heard from again. Great plan.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Most of the umpires I see stay outside do so out of laziness and god help the team who cuts a throw home and shoots it back to 3B 'cause there ain't gonna be an umpire there to make the call.

Throw back to 3rd? You'll have to explain where you got thiat from.

I guess the majority of college officials are lazy for recognizing the benefit of staying outside in certain situations. Thank goodness the rumor about an NCAA/ASA relationship was just that. I would hate to have a gaggle of ASA SP geese decide what mechanics are used to determine my readiness for my next post-season assignment.

[umpirebob71]

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