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Steve, I believe if you read my post again you will see I cited NFHS Softball Rules. Unless something changed dramatically, this is High School softball Rule. In Fed. runner out on appeal,simple as that.
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We can appreciate your knowledge, but mixing not only rule sets, but games (and baseball and softball are NOT the same game) can easily confuse the issue and thread. |
Sorry you boys only do 1 league but most umpires do several. Distinguishing the differences helps clarify not confuse umps. Staying with 1 book limits you,by your choice. Others call lots of different leagues. Clarifacation will only help you understand differences.
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Do you consider baseball and softball different leagues?
Try "different sports"! |
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Or, you could try talking about softball rulings in the baseball forum and see how nice they treat you there... |
Seth, we do talk about all rule books in both sports because a lot of people do both sports. Our association and state gives us handouts telling the different rules between OBR NFHS NCAA ASA. This is for the majority of people who do more than 1 league.
They appreciate knowing the differences, seeing how they have to make different calls for different leagues. The only one's I can see this confusing is umpires who only do softball. The majority of umps work all year in multiple leagues and are not limited to softball. We prefer to be versed in any league we call. |
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Once talking with Mary S. from NFHS and she referred to my state's Fed interpreter as the "cute little man who always asks why we just can't use baseball rules for softball". Sad part is that this baseball guys idea of a softball rules clinic was to read that year's rules changes from the documents provided by NFHS. He "ran" an association that trained the softball umpires in baseball rules and mechanics. Offered to help his association by opening the ASA state umpire school to his umpires. He refused to pass this on to his group. No idea why. Quote:
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I call ASA/USFA FP all year long, here in Houston, with very little breaks in between. I like to specialize in FP Softball and choose not to call any other sport. I agree with IRISH that Umpires confuse baseball and softball rules when they do both. I have worked with a couple baseball/softball Umpires and have seen them confuse baseball rules with softball rules and mechanics on the field.
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I agree umpires who do both sometimes mix rule books. If these umpires were more informed of the differences in the 2 they will eventually get better at distinguishing the differences. Many,many times its the coaches who mix rules up and an uninformed umpire has no knowledge to explain to these coaches where they are going wrong. This doesn't help the coaches, players, or umpires advance their knowledge of whatever rules they're calling. When these coaches argue that they saw the same play on TV or another game an umpires credibility will be greatly enhanced by being able to explain the differences. How many times during an argument or after do softball umps have to listen to coaches, fans and players say things like, that's why he's a softball umpire. I usually eliminate any doubt in their minds by being able to tell them the differences immediately. If your best answer is I don't know about other rules you not only lose credibility but you do the game an injustice. If we're not here to help advancement of all involved, what is our purpose? A paycheck? What will stop the confusion? Information you should be able to explain so coaches can instruct their players. Whether we like it or not, both sports overlap in arguments with coaches. Saying I don't know or that's the coaches problem will do nothing to alleviate this problem. If you want everyone on the same page as far as your sports rules go, umpires need to explain it so everyone understands. Or wait for someone to sprinkle magic dust that will make coaches read the book. Coaches don't read books usually and if an umpire can't explain it he only adds to the confusion.
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