Overthrown vs lose possession

[WestMichiganBlue]

ASA 8.5.G (but applicable to other rule sets) - overthrown ball that goes out of play.

Does "overthrown" mean a thrown ball that is way wide of the fielder that goes out of play? Or can it be a thrown ball that the fielder fails to cleanly field?

8.5.G1 is an exception for when a fielder loses possession of the thrown ball. What does "loses possession" mean?

Sit: 14U semi-final game: attempted pick off at 1B. F2's throw is in the dirt and gets past F3. R9, backing up the play, bobbles the ball and it goes in to DBT.

If this is an overthown ball, then award is 2 bases from TOT and R1 goes to 3B.

If this is loss of possession, then award is 1 base from time ball enters DBT, and R1 goes to 2B.

What is your call?

WMB