Safety base
 

Runner on first.....batter hits line drive to second baseman who catches it and throws to first baseman who has her foot on the orange safety base.....runner gets back to the white base after the throw....but first baseman never touches the white bag at all.....is the runner safe? Can the first baseman use the orange bag for the force out?

Also.....

Ground ball hit to first.....first baseman bobbles ball....picks up ball with bare hand and then touches bag with her glove....this seemed weird to me....I know that you can't tag a runner with just the glove....is this legal? Out?

Thanks for any input in advance.

The runner is safe.

Check ASA rule 8.

Stu,
Illiniwek had two questions.

Yes, the runner is safe when the colloured part of the safety-base is used by F1. The only exception is when there's a throw from foul-territory on the 1st base side. Then (only then), F1 has a choise using white or clooured base.

To answer the 2nd question, what difference is there in having a foot on the base and the ball in your hand (or glove) and having the ball in a hand and touching the base with the other hand. Touching the base, in (controlled) possesion of the ball that is what's required...

this is a play on a runner already on first, not the first play on the batter-runner ... its all one base at that point, runner is out

Play 1) NFHS: SAFE Both bags considered one base except for an intitial play at first) - I thought it was the same in ASA, but seems others don't, I'll have to look it up.

Play 2) It may look wierd, but it is an out (all codes)

:confused:Both of the previous individuals have said the exact same thing but with different calls. I am totally confused now.

Both bags considered one base---

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HugoTaFurst-SAFE
:confused:

I thought the only time the colored part could be used was on the 1st play on the BR.

It is NOT a force out, it is a live ball appeal. The defense made the proper appeal holding the ball while touching the base. The runner is out in all rules sets of which I am aware.

Can you tag the base with your foot while the ball is in the hand? What's the difference?

Out and out.

Now, regarding sitch 2, who's going to regurgitate the extremely long hair example from 3-4 years ago?

You mean the ponytail example?

Yes ... the exaggerated one.

or a shoe lace :D

That one too. :)

These sound like they created quite a discussion on here.

Even though F3 never touched the white (ie in fair territory) part of the double base and the throw did not come from foul territory? Please note: I'm not trying to argue, just to learn.

Thanks.

We're a lively bunch. :D