your call plz

[upstateump]

2 outs, bottom 7, tie ball game, runners on 1st and 3rd, batter gets base hit, runner on 3rd scores, ball is tossed to the infield around pitching rubber, defensive and offensive players, assuming the game is over, begin to vacate field, as they do an offensive player picks the ball up and tosses it into the dugout, the batter/runner had touched 1st base, but the runner on 1st never touched 2nd base, as they are celebrating their supposive win the defensive coach approaches umpire and wants to appeal that the runner on 1st never touched 2nd and vacated the field for an out that would eliminate the run because of the force out...whats the verdict

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by upstateump

2 outs, bottom 7, tie ball game, runners on 1st and 3rd, batter gets base hit, runner on 3rd scores, ball is tossed to the infield around pitching rubber, defensive and offensive players, assuming the game is over, begin to vacate field, as they do an offensive player picks the ball up and tosses it into the dugout, the batter/runner had touched 1st base, but the runner on 1st never touched 2nd base, as they are celebrating their supposive win the defensive coach approaches umpire and wants to appeal that the runner on 1st never touched 2nd and vacated the field for an out that would eliminate the run because of the force out...whats the verdict

Speaking ASA

Why are you worried about the ball? You don't need no stinking ball!!

However, I hope the coach brought along an infielder, pitcher or catcher who have yet to leave fair territory to interpret
for him.

If the appeal is made within the allowance provided by rule, I am going to have to find a store that sells beer before I go home.

Yeah, yeah, I know the catcher doesn't play in fair territory. Stop being a putz. If the catcher hasn't left her immediate playing area for the dugout, I will accept an appeal from him/her.

[upstateump]

why the arragant condescension,,,you cant be any fun on the field

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by upstateump

why the arragant condescension,,,you cant be any fun on the field

Lacking citation, I assume you are referring to the last paragraph. Just trying to get ahead of the subsequent issues which may be raised by others.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by upstateump

why the arragant condescension,,,you cant be any fun on the field

Funny thing about message boards - the same words can be interpreted differently by different readers.

I thought the answer was written with a humorous touch, sarcastic, yes, but humorus nonetheless.

In fact, I was thinking that the tone was probably beer inspired, maybe mixed with a little cabin fever.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by upstateump

why the arragant condescension,,,you cant be any fun on the field

Don't worry much about Mike. He's actually a teddybear.

HugoTafurst is right... Comments like his can be misinterpreted. Sure, he can have a little bite in his words, but he's not one to be offensive. You just gotta get to know him, is all.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Don't worry much about Mike. He's actually a teddybear.

HugoTafurst is right... Comments like his can be misinterpreted. Sure, he can have a little bite in his words, but he's not one to be offensive. You just gotta get to know him, is all.

Well....I'm offended!!!!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by skahtboi

well....i'm offended!!!!

p.o.o.p.

[shagpal]

you gotta be funny to be funny.

if you gotta think about it with any effort, it ain't funny. clever perhaps, but not funny. wise azz prolly, but not funny.

if you gotta explain a joke, then....

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Funny thing about message boards - the same words can be interpreted differently by different readers.

I thought the answer was written with a humorous touch, sarcastic, yes, but humorus nonetheless.

In fact, I was thinking that the tone was probably beer inspired, maybe mixed with a little cabin fever.

[upstateump]

wow,,yall must luv to hear yourselves talk or are scared of the sitch,,cuz ive only read one half-hearted answer

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by upstateump

wow,,yall must luv to hear yourselves talk or are scared of the sitch,,cuz ive only read one half-hearted answer

So, who's being arrogant now?? How many answers do you think you need to hear after the one right one is already posted?

If you need to hear more plainly, here it is. The defensive coach cannot make an appeal, either live ball or dead ball, in ASA. The ball became dead when thrown out of play, but that doesn't excuse runners from the requirements to legally run the bases. So, if an infielder (including pitcher or catcher; not an outfielder or coach) that hasn't left the field of play makes a dead ball appeal on the runner from first failing to touch the base forced to touch (second) to an umpire that also hasn't left the field, then the winning run does not score.

Start the 8th if they appeal properly; end the game if they do not. What else do you not understand?

By the way, what is a supposive win? Did you mean supposed (or assumed) win?

[shagpal]

you won't get a straight answer from a clown, so don't expect one. you'll most likely get insults.

Originally Posted by upstateump

wow,,yall must luv to hear yourselves talk or are scared of the sitch,,cuz ive only read one half-hearted answer

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by upstateump

wow,,yall must luv to hear yourselves talk or are scared of the sitch,,cuz ive only read one half-hearted answer

Okay, based on the poorly posted scenario, the verdict is.......nothing as a proper appeal was not made.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by upstateump

2 outs, bottom 7, tie ball game, runners on 1st and 3rd, batter gets base hit, runner on 3rd scores, ball is tossed to the infield around pitching rubber, defensive and offensive players, assuming the game is over, begin to vacate field, as they do an offensive player picks the ball up and tosses it into the dugout, the batter/runner had touched 1st base, but the runner on 1st never touched 2nd base, as they are celebrating their supposive win the defensive coach approaches umpire and wants to appeal that the runner on 1st never touched 2nd and vacated the field for an out that would eliminate the run because of the force out...whats the verdict

Interesting sitch. A little bizarre, but interesting. Breaking it down under NCAA rules here's how I see it:

1.2 outs, bottom 7, tie ball game, runners on 1st and 3rd, batter gets base hit,runner on 3rd scores...
At this point the game is over (for the moment anyway)...you have a winner. 6.2.1

2....an offensive player picks the ball up and tosses it into the dugout...
Not pertinent to sitch. The ball became dead when the runner from 3rd scored giving the home team the winning run (for the moment) in the bottom of the 7th. 6.12.1.2.1

3. ......defensive coach approaches umpire and wants to appeal....
OK under NCAA rules. 7.1.2.2.1

4. Now IF, (as it was not stated in your OP), that the DC's request for an appeal of the runner on 1st failed to touch 2nd, was made "before the pitcher and all infielders have clearly vacated their normal fielding positions and have left fair territory, and the catcher has clearly vacated her normal her normal fielding position." 7.1.1.2.3
You have a dead ball appeal. 3 outs. Score still tied. Visitors lead off the top of the 8th inning.

5. If defense DID NOT meet the requirements in #4 for a proper dead ball appeal,
Game over. Home team wins.

[BretMan]

Half-hearted answer? You got a correct answer that pretty much covered it all!

If the missed base is properly appealed, the run is cancelled. The game is tied and we continue to the top of the eighth.

If it's not, game over, home team wins.