ASA Proposed Rule Changes of Note

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Thank GOD they didn't change the tie breaker as proposed - how long did it take for them to reject THAT?

It was rejected on Consent, held, debated on the floor and then rejected 178-38

Kind of surprised that the face mask didn't pass - that usually is the sort of safety thing that ASA usually takes a leadership role in promoting see, for example, the cage on the batting helmet. Perhaps if next year the proposal gets cut down to P, 1B, 3B, it will pass. And PLEASE do not lecture me on the 'its over officiating' or 'its Mommy and Daddys business' - I would prefer NEVER to see a bunch of 'bloody chiclets' out there. With a kid 12-13-14 crying in pain. If it takes me another minute or two of checking, instead of schmoozing with my partner, so be it....

Sorry, but that is ridiculous. What they are suggesting IS called parenting. And if you are aware of the hassles which were endured by ASA and the teams with the face masks on the batting helmet, you wouldn't even suggest we go through that again.

If memory serves me correctly, these proposals were rejected on Consent, did not come up for discussion in some committees due to a lack of a motion and never saw the floor.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Sorry, but that is ridiculous. What they are suggesting IS called parenting. And if you are aware of the hassles which were endured by ASA and the teams with the face masks on the batting helmet, you wouldn't even suggest we go through that again.

If memory serves me correctly, these proposals were rejected on Consent, did not come up for discussion in some committees due to a lack of a motion and never saw the floor.

Craig Cress' interview with Fast Pitch Radio Show addressed the issue of the mask. It would, in fact, have to get NOCSAE-certified if they were to require such an item on the field. Just one more thing to add to the list, right?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Craig Cress' interview with Fast Pitch Radio Show addressed the issue of the mask. It would, in fact, have to get NOCSAE-certified if they were to require such an item on the field. Just one more thing to add to the list, right?

Which would require the development of a safe standard, development of masks to meet that standard, NOCSAE approval which requires a one-year probationary period and ONLY then will a certification be applied which will require a stamp on the equipment which, like the batting helmet mask, require a purchase of new equipment by all those involved.

Then comes all the whining, crying and accusations of ASA conspiring with the manufacturers to force people to buy a product which is mandated.

And then ASA becomes the bad guy when these teams show up for a tournament with non-approved equipment because "they let us use these at home".

What next, mandatory chest plates for all infielders and batters since a thrown/batted ball to the chest can kill them?

[wadeintothem]

At some tourneys, checking for the approval logo on approved chest plates is going to be quite a trick... if the nannyumps have their way.

[okla21fan]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

What next, mandatory chest plates for all infielders and batters since a thrown/batted ball to the chest can kill them?

Nahhhhhh, let just use one of those 6u ultra softballs. The ones that bounce around like super balls! now that's really 'softball' and no one gets hurt!

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

What next, mandatory chest plates for all infielders and batters since a thrown/batted ball to the chest can kill them?

Don't give them any ideas!

[Dholloway1962]

So what was the true reasoning given for not allowing College Girls play 18G? Who was the big lobby for that change?

[Snocatzdad]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

So what was the true reasoning given for not allowing College Girls play 18G? Who was the big lobby for that change?

If they were honest about it the reasoning might have been about losing 60% of the top 100 teams to a competing organization whose members tried unsuccessfully to work within the system for change and were only heard on the way out the door.

What reason for moving the 18U Gold up a week can you come up with other than trying to get the teams that have committed to Premeir to at least show up to 18U Gold in addition.

That's what it looks like to an outsider anyway. JOFP in ASA always seemed to me to be analagous to the Marine division of Honda. A few years back Honda automotive retooled the engine for the Civic and had all the old tools obsoleted and destroyed. Almost every Honda outboard motor used that old civic motor and when they asked that the tools not be destroyed to avoid the cost of reengineering 100% of their bigger outboards the answer that came back from Honda Automotive was "We make $7 Billion worth of automobiles every year. Why do you assume that your 100 Million in Marine sales is even worth discussing?"

That doesn't mean that ASA JOFP isn't the #1 youth softball program, but it means that the priorities of the passionate few aren't always the main issue.

[Dakota]

re: college players: can't play in G or B, but can in A.

End result: 18A is now the premier 18U division and the 18G becomes the "high school all-stars who don't have a scholarship yet" division.