ASA Proposed Rule Changes of Note

[greymule]

Putting runners on 2B and 1B for the tiebreaker doesn't make sense to me. If the defense wants to set up that force with an intentional walk, they can always do so.

As far as the height of the pitch goes, it's going to be difficult no matter what the rule is. Changing to 10 feet with no lower limit might be going from the frying pan into the fire. The good pitchers are going to push the limits just as they do now.

Drop awarded base from IP? Yes! People might actually start calling IPs.

[steveshane67]

in vegas, they do 70' bases for SP and it really speeds the game up, very few infield hits, more outs on the bases. plus, assuming the IF dirt is now 5' deeper, IFers can play back more and get to more balls.

i wasnt sure about the metal spikes.... are you saying they are proposing allowing them in ASA and you are ok with that?

IMO its a very serious safety issue to not allow metal spikes, probably more serious than illegal bats.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

...IMO its a very serious safety issue to not allow metal spikes, probably more serious than illegal bats.

The high school girls seemed to manage ...

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by greymule

Putting runners on 2B and 1B for the tiebreaker doesn't make sense to me. If the defense wants to set up that force with an intentional walk, they can always do so.

As far as the height of the pitch goes, it's going to be difficult no matter what the rule is. Changing to 10 feet with no lower limit might be going from the frying pan into the fire. The good pitchers are going to push the limits just as they do now.

Drop awarded base from IP? Yes! People might actually start calling IPs.

in coed, walking a guy with a girl on deck is 2 bases so its not always possible to set up that force.

[greymule]

IMO its a very serious safety issue to not [?] allow metal spikes, probably more serious than illegal bats.

Naturally, it's possible to be badly cut by metal spikes. I once saw my third baseman's tendon and bone after a play, and it was 100% accident. But in actual practice, injuries from metal spikes are very rare.

Hot bats, I think, pose greater dangers, including death, facial disfigurement, and brain damage. From behind the plate, I saw the career of a high-level pitcher end on a line drive off his foot. We had tried to ban the Miken Ultra before the tournament, but the company threatened to sue and even sent a representative to make sure we allowed the bat.

Yes, Steve. I forgot completely about coed rules.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by greymule

Yes, Steve. I forgot completely about coed rules.

Who cares about co-ed rules, the TB is not used in co-ed softball.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Who cares about co-ed rules, the TB is not used in co-ed softball.

Since when? Or are you just being scarcastic?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Since when? Or are you just being scarcastic?

Since ever?

ASA 5.11, the Tie Breaker Rule is used only by Women's & JO Girls FP, Men's 40+ and 45+ FP and Men's Senior SP

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Since ever?

ASA 5.11, the Tie Breaker Rule is used only by Women's & JO Girls FP, Men's 40+ and 45+ FP and Men's Senior SP

Sorry, wasn't familiar with the tiebreker's limits in FP. I'm a SP guy.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by greymule

IMO its a very serious safety issue to not [?] allow metal spikes, probably more serious than illegal bats.

Naturally, it's possible to be badly cut by metal spikes. I once saw my third baseman's tendon and bone after a play, and it was 100% accident. But in actual practice, injuries from metal spikes are very rare.

Hot bats, I think, pose greater dangers, including death, facial disfigurement, and brain damage. From behind the plate, I saw the career of a high-level pitcher end on a line drive off his foot. We had tried to ban the Miken Ultra before the tournament, but the company threatened to sue and even sent a representative to make sure we allowed the bat.

Yes, Steve. I forgot completely about coed rules.

i figured you forgot, wasnt trying to sound snobby...

the metal spike thing kills me bc of the other rules ASA has in place for safety reasons that, IMO, are way over the top. maybe its fine for "major" players but for the weeknight rec league its beyond stupid.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

...maybe its fine for "major" players but for the weeknight rec league its beyond stupid.

Local leagues can ban metal with a local rule (and many probably will if this passes). The official ASA rule would only come into play in championship play.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Local leagues can ban metal with a local rule (and many probably will if this passes). The official ASA rule would only come into play in championship play.

Adults have always been allowed to wear metal spikes except for co-ed and senior.

Twenty years ago EVERYONE was allowed to wear metal spikes.

This change is directed toward JO players.