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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 09:59am
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We talked about it for several between innings. I am aware that on this play NCAA issues a warning and I brought that up to him. I asked him (he is NCAA) if his aversion to what to me was an obvious call was that if it were NCAA there would be a warning and he kinda waffled about that.. "well yeah, i would have to write do the name and this and that..."

To me it was an obvious call and I made it and I told my partner, yes, I was essentially giving them a free shot home (he felt then the call was punitive and I agreed there was a punitive aspect to the free shot home.. but thats the way it is)

What I was chewing on with this line of thought was if "impeding" had a deeper aspect.. or is it.. contact as described=obs (how I've always called it) with the free shot.

Apparantly there would be no deeper aspect to impedence.
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... Apparently there would be no deeper aspect to impedance.
Sure there is:



Or, alternately,



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Ohhhmmmmmmmmmmm....
Apparently, you are just naturally resistive to my attempt to impede the discussion.
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Apparently, you are just naturally resistive to my attempt to impede the discussion.
maybe he is just in tune with the zen of his inner OBS.
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Sitting at my desk LOL!
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To me it was an obvious call and I made it and I told my partner, yes, I was essentially giving them a free shot home (he felt then the call was punitive and I agreed there was a punitive aspect to the free shot home.. but thats the way it is)
How is forcing the defense to make a play that shouldn't have been a problem to start being punitive?

Punitive is an automatic award of one base. Let's see, what organization does that?....hmmmm....anybody?
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Old Mon Oct 05, 2009, 01:49pm
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How is forcing the defense to make a play that shouldn't have been a problem to start being punitive?

Punitive is an automatic award of one base. Let's see, what organization does that?....hmmmm....anybody?
I'm in agreement with the OBS call on this.. I agree with the free shot, then I'll probably put em back.. but was kinda fishing for a thought process ... Always be willing to listen and learn, which is what I was doing.
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I'm in agreement with the OBS call on this.. I agree with the free shot, then I'll probably put em back.. but was kinda fishing for a thought process ... Always be willing to listen and learn, which is what I was doing.
Here's the way I would answer your partner's view: the runner was obviously impeded, and it doesn't matter if the runners was impeded in the runner's intent to advance one more step or 60'; the runner was impeded. We don't require the runner to be making an attempt to advance to the next base, only that the runner be legally running the bases.
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Here's the way I would answer your partner's view: the runner was obviously impeded, and it doesn't matter if the runners was impeded in the runner's intent to advance one more step or 60'; the runner was impeded. We don't require the runner to be making an attempt to advance to the next base, only that the runner be legally running the bases.
The runner was going to where F5 was, and likely beyond, so progress was impeded to R1's desired point.
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We talked about it for several between innings. I am aware that on this play NCAA issues a warning and I brought that up to him. I asked him (he is NCAA) if his aversion to what to me was an obvious call was that if it were NCAA there would be a warning and he kinda waffled about that.. "well yeah, i would have to write do the name and this and that..."

To me it was an obvious call and I made it and I told my partner, yes, I was essentially giving them a free shot home (he felt then the call was punitive and I agreed there was a punitive aspect to the free shot home.. but thats the way it is)

What I was chewing on with this line of thought was if "impeding" had a deeper aspect.. or is it.. contact as described=obs (how I've always called it) with the free shot.

Apparantly there would be no deeper aspect to impedence.
It sounds like you made the obvious and right call, Wade. And your partner's aversion to paperwork may well mean that somebody else will have a mess to deal with because he chose not to do his job right.
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Apparently, you are just naturally resistive to my attempt to impede the discussion.

Let's stick to the current issue. And don't give me any static.
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Apparently, you are just naturally resistive to my attempt to impede the discussion.

Let's stick to the current issue. And don't give me any static.
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Apparently, you are just naturally resistive to my attempt to impede the discussion.

Let's stick to the current issue. And don't give me any static.
It would be my induction that you find this discussion too high-voltage.
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