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Old Thu Sep 24, 2009, 06:25pm
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I guarantee someone's making money.

Why not pay UICs and commishes? I've heard enough of them bemoan the fact that they don't get paid for all the work they do and use it as an excuse when someone complains.
No, it is used as a defense. Too many morons believe Commissioners and UICs are full-time, paid positions and expect 24/7 service. When necessary, most UICs & Commissioners do a helluva job.

Two examples.

First: A couple years ago, a local team had a player have a bat kept out of a game by the umpire because it was on the non-approved list. Problem was, there was a one-digit difference in the model #. That player called the local Parks & Rec office around 8:00 am. The issue went from the local P&R to CCress in OKC to the Reg UIC to the State UIC and the local P&R had his interpretation by 8:45 am.

Second: Apparently, there is still a roster issue pending with the Men's C SP East. The manager asked his commissioner for a copy of the roster of the team in question. A message with the request was left for an individual in OKC. That morning some putz (player) for the team sent an e-mail to CC to complain that the commissioner wasn't getting a response from the main office. Within minutes the commisioner got a call from CC wanting to know why someone thinks ASA was not responding to a request.

Everyone have lives outside of ASA and softball and people have a tendency to either ignore or forget that fact.
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Old Thu Sep 24, 2009, 08:03pm
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A few questions

Am I to understand that teams are going to be competing to be the VD champions?

and

Will it be streamed?

Of course, if its just a bunch of fat Texans in tshirts with their dumb little flag on it, forget it.

PS IMO ASA should sue you for using their good name to promote a future competing, no matter how lame, product.
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Old Fri Sep 25, 2009, 08:29am
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Am I to understand that teams are going to be competing to be the VD champions?
I'm sure the parents will be "happy" when their daughters end up with this lofty "accomplishment" on their sports resumes.
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Old Fri Sep 25, 2009, 08:32am
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No, it is used as a defense. Too many morons believe Commissioners and UICs are full-time, paid positions and expect 24/7 service. When necessary, most UICs & Commissioners do a helluva job.

Two examples.

First: A couple years ago, a local team had a player have a bat kept out of a game by the umpire because it was on the non-approved list. Problem was, there was a one-digit difference in the model #. That player called the local Parks & Rec office around 8:00 am. The issue went from the local P&R to CCress in OKC to the Reg UIC to the State UIC and the local P&R had his interpretation by 8:45 am.

Second: Apparently, there is still a roster issue pending with the Men's C SP East. The manager asked his commissioner for a copy of the roster of the team in question. A message with the request was left for an individual in OKC. That morning some putz (player) for the team sent an e-mail to CC to complain that the commissioner wasn't getting a response from the main office. Within minutes the commisioner got a call from CC wanting to know why someone thinks ASA was not responding to a request.

Everyone have lives outside of ASA and softball and people have a tendency to either ignore or forget that fact.
The local player was probably some lowly rec leaguer who wasn't so anal about getting a fast interpretation, but still nice to know they got a speedy response.

The higher the classification, the more swollen the ego, therefore the more brash behavior you'll find.
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Old Fri Sep 25, 2009, 09:02am
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The local player was probably some lowly rec leaguer who wasn't so anal about getting a fast interpretation, but still nice to know they got a speedy response.


Couldn't care less about the player. The P&R employee needed to make a decision on a protest.

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The higher the classification, the more swollen the ego, therefore the more brash behavior you'll find.
No doubt, but the point was that this "individual" wasn't satisfied that the team did not get an instantaneous response since after all, that commissioner has nothing better to do than his job.
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Old Fri Sep 25, 2009, 10:13am
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Couldn't care less about the player. The P&R employee needed to make a decision on a protest.

No doubt, but the point was that this "individual" wasn't satisfied that the team did not get an instantaneous response since after all, that commissioner has nothing better to do than his job.
I guess I should have added that there's more patience when a P&R employee was making the request, more likely for a rec league. I was just making the point that when it's a local issue that's inquiring for a national interp, there's more patience and less egotism than when it's a higher classification/national tournament issue waiting for a national response.
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