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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 12:37pm
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Guess what. If you had half a clue, you'd know that there's fast pitch, slow pitch, modified pitch and 16" slow pitch. Maybe if you knew a bit more about softball, you would have known that. As such, it should have been "worst," but I digress.
Sorry about the confusion about the "missuse" of a form of a verb, who knew grammar was such a priority on these boards. When I was writing the post in question, I used the form worse bc I was only thinking about FP and SP, 2 options. Yes you are correct that there are other types of softball besides those 2. And just for the record, YOU were there one who called me a jack@ss first. Dont dish it out if you cant take it back
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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 01:24pm
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Sorry about the confusion about the "missuse" of a form of a verb, who knew grammar was such a priority on these boards. When I was writing the post in question, I used the form worse bc I was only thinking about FP and SP, 2 options. Yes you are correct that there are other types of softball besides those 2. And just for the record, YOU were there one who called me a jack@ss first. Dont dish it out if you cant take it back
Oh, I can certainly take it. I've been at this for a very long time, and my DGAF ("don't give a f***") factor is high when it comes to whiners like yourself.

You, on the other hand, have no clue, and it would probably be better if you either changed your piano's tune or simply left. You're doing nothing more than making yourself look worse and worse with every post you make.

If you want honest answers, that's fine. Ask us questions. Just don't p1ss and moan about the one you get when it's not the one you want.

You, sir, are no umpire, and you certainly could never hack it if you ever became one.
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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 02:04pm
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If you want honest answers, that's fine. Ask us questions. Just don't p1ss and moan about the one you get when it's not the one you want.

You, sir, are no umpire, and you certainly could never hack it if you ever became one.
Please tell me when ive ever pissed and moaned about a rules question answer when "it's not the one I want"???

And just a FYI, I ump (2nd year) for a local league that doesnt use "certified" ASA umps, and by everyones (players, coaches, league directors, other umps) am the best ump in the league (>200 teams across A-B-C-D levels). Quick anecdote, I play in this league as well and the commish doesnt have players ump the same level as they play in for conflict of interest reasons, but after my team was knocked out of the 1st round of the playoffs, a few of the remaining captains requested that I do their remaining playoff games bc they thought so highly of me (compared to the other umps) (and they know of my umping bc many play in more than 1 level)

I find umping is actually really easy, except in the rare instances when I have to watch 4 things at once.
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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 02:35pm
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Please tell me when ive ever pissed and moaned about a rules question answer when "it's not the one I want"???
When? How about when you suggested (and keep insisting) that one umpire "overrules" another? It does not exist in softball. Period. End of story. I gave you the rule reference. Go read.

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And just a FYI, I ump (2nd year) for a local league that doesnt use "certified" ASA umps, and by everyones (players, coaches, league directors, other umps) am the best ump in the league (>200 teams across A-B-C-D levels). Quick anecdote, I play in this league as well and the commish doesnt have players ump the same level as they play in for conflict of interest reasons, but after my team was knocked out of the 1st round of the playoffs, a few of the remaining captains requested that I do their remaining playoff games bc they thought so highly of me (compared to the other umps) (and they know of my umping bc many play in more than 1 level)

I find umping is actually really easy, except in the rare instances when I have to watch 4 things at once.
Oh I've got to see this...
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Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 03:34pm
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Is softball different than baseball in the fact the baseball umps will meet, discuss a "contested" play and make a "second" ruling? There was a play a few weeks ago, slow dribbler down the first base line, the pitcher or firstbaseman ran over, fielded the ball as their momentum carried then into foul territory. The PU ruled foul ball. The umps met after the OC argued (ball was hit too slow for the fast runner to be put out) and ruled fair ball and awarded the BR 1B. Since that call was the PUs, someone had to overrule his foul ball call....
Well, by now everyone reading this thread knows that was an MLB game you are talking about. As Dave said,
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I can't overstate this, but... This is NOT MLB.

MLB obviously feels differently from ASA about this
And Dave is right. If you had read and comprehended the thread we had about that play over on the baseball board you would know MLB has its own interpretations of OBR. You also would have noticed different umpires have differing viewpoints on changing foul to fair, and that it was the PU who changed his own call after taking the advice of his partners.
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Take this example, in baseball, softball, LL... 2 man crew, runner on 1st, batter his a ground rule double, 1 ump awards the runner home. Now the other ump, knowing this is wrong, huddles with the other ump to discuss the situation. You guys call this conferring with a rules guru, I call it the other ump overturned a bad call by his partner. its 6 or a half dozen.
Nobody overturned anything. One umpire reminded his partner of the rule, which he should have done, and the umpire who made the original call realized what the rule was and fixed it.

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And just a FYI, I ump (2nd year) for a local league that doesnt use "certified" ASA umps, and by everyones (players, coaches, league directors, other umps) am the best ump in the league (>200 teams across A-B-C-D levels).
Great, gold star for you! And think of the money you saved not having to certify. I guarantee you there are other umpires here who are thought of as the best in their respective leagues, so you are in good company.
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I find umping is actually really easy, except in the rare instances when I have to watch 4 things at once.
Yeah, I hate when that happens. Happens at least once a game, too.
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