skull session

[BuggBob]

I would like to see the slow pitch "illeagal pitch" removed. That is unless the pitcher commits an illeagal act.

I like the LBR, so it can stay. ut slow pitch illeagal for height -- that should go.

Bugg

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by reccer

Make that outside pitch hittable,

It is hitable.

Keep the existing plate and draw two lines say 4 inches in from the left and right edges running lengthwise with the plate. The line draw on the left side (3rd base side) is the outside corner edge for LH batters. Use the opposite line as outside corner for RH batters. In either case, keep inside corner as it is for both.

You mean right about where the lines to the BB are presently?

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by reccer

Make that outside pitch hittable, so Kruc doesn't throw down his headset in disgust and start mumbling to himself and I don't keep breaking tv sets.

So we can't hear Kruk at present. That is a problem in what way...?

Originally Posted by reccer

Keep the existing plate and draw two lines say 4 inches in from the left and right edges running lengthwise with the plate. The line draw on the left side (3rd base side) is the outside corner edge for LH batters. Use the opposite line as outside corner for RH batters. In either case, keep inside corner as it is for both.

The lines will be gone after the first inning. Then it's back to umpire judgement (which it always would be, even with these lines).

[reccer]

I want outside strikes to be 4 inches closer to the batter.

I 'm not talking about chalk in the dirt.

I am permanently painting lines on the existing plate.

Draw a plate out on your desk. Point of plate pointing at you the PU. Measure 4 inches in from the left side. That is going to be the outside edge for lefties for your strike zone. Do the same on the right side. That is the outside edge for righties.

The existing inside edge of the strike zone is where you currently have it.

This change compensates for the additional width of the softball, allows the batter to still use a semblance of form in getting good contact on the ball, yet keeps all other aspects of the game the same.

Don't change men's slow pitch or men's fastpitch, but consider this for women's fastpitch.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by BuggBob

I would like to see the slow pitch "illeagal pitch" removed. That is unless the pitcher commits an illeagal act.

I like the LBR, so it can stay. ut slow pitch illeagal for height -- that should go.

Bugg

I play in coed with no limit for guys - sky ball sucks. Gotta keep the 12.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by BuggBob

I would like to see the slow pitch "illeagal pitch" removed. That is unless the pitcher commits an illeagal act.

Huh? That makes absolutely no sense even if it were an illegal pitch.

I like the LBR, so it can stay.

You like longer, slower games for no apparent reason? Okay, just stay away from my tournaments.

slow pitch illeagal for height -- that should go.

Height limits are not something historic for ASA. It used to be unlimited and the number of runs scored was about the same as your local JV game. If anything, the 12' arc is the radically high of all SP organizations right now, so I doubt they will go backwards.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by reccer

I want outside strikes to be 4 inches closer to the batter.

I 'm not talking about chalk in the dirt.

I am permanently painting lines on the existing plate.

Draw a plate out on your desk. Point of plate pointing at you the PU. Measure 4 inches in from the left side. That is going to be the outside edge for lefties for your strike zone. Do the same on the right side. That is the outside edge for righties.

So, you want to narrow the strike zone by 8 inches? Yeah, just what this game needs, more boring walks.

The existing inside edge of the strike zone is where you currently have it.

This change compensates for the additional width of the softball, allows the batter to still use a semblance of form in getting good contact on the ball, yet keeps all other aspects of the game the same.

The strike zone now and always has allowed for the width of the ball. You have not discovered anything new here. And if you DD cannot hit the pitches called strikes, she needs someone to teach her how to hit because they are very hitable pitchers.

[reccer]

So, you want to narrow the strike zone by 8 inches?


No I'm narrowing the strike zone by 4 inches of the outside edge.

I disagree. Pitches down the opposite batters box stripe are not hitable, particularly by small females.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by reccer

So, you want to narrow the strike zone by 8 inches?


No I'm narrowing the strike zone by 4 inches of the outside edge.

I disagree. Pitches down the opposite batters box stripe are not hitable, particularly by small females.

Depends on how the catcher sets up and catches it.

If she catches it over her shoulder and back, or if she is set up way outside.-- she makes it look very unhittable and look like a ball

If shes off center an inch or two and if she holds it out in front.. coaches seem to always say "that was your pitch, gotta swing at that..."

Dunno though... I'm no coach.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by reccer

So, you want to narrow the strike zone by 8 inches?


No I'm narrowing the strike zone by 4 inches of the outside edge.

I disagree. Pitches down the opposite batters box stripe are not hitable, particularly by small females.

That bat is almost 3 feet long! Lay the bat across the plate, and it goes box-to-box. Even a midget can stretch her arms long enough to reach it!

[reccer]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

That bat is almost 3 feet long! Lay the bat across the plate, and it goes box-to-box. Even a midget can stretch her arms long enough to reach it!

Actually, its 33-34 inches long. Those 2-3 inches make a big difference when you are talking about a bats sweets spot.

I didn't say the pitch wasn't touchable, I said it wasn't hitable, with any semblance of form. Some of you slow pitch guys are 6'4" with wing spans from here to there, and plenty of upper body strength. You don't notice the problem.

Females don't have the comparable upper body strength and have to cast out like crazy to reach that pitch and when they do, dink to F5. Their hips and butt are no longer able to provide any power.

Do you remember the hitting drill where you stood near a wall and put the knob against your bellow button and the opposite end of the bat against the wall and attempted full speed swings without hitting the wall? The purpose of that drill was to keep you from casting out.

[Dakota]

I'm sorry, reccer, but IMO, your suggestion about shrinking the strike zone is absurd. JMO, though.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by reccer

Actually, its 33-34 inches long. Those 2-3 inches make a big difference when you are talking about a bats sweets spot.

I didn't say the pitch wasn't touchable, I said it wasn't hitable, with any semblance of form. Some of you slow pitch guys are 6'4" with wing spans from here to there, and plenty of upper body strength. You don't notice the problem.

Females don't have the comparable upper body strength and have to cast out like crazy to reach that pitch and when they do, dink to F5. Their hips and butt are no longer able to provide any power.

Do you remember the hitting drill where you stood near a wall and put the knob against your bellow button and the opposite end of the bat against the wall and attempted full speed swings without hitting the wall? The purpose of that drill was to keep you from casting out.

Two words.


Pujols

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

That bat is almost 3 feet long! Lay the bat across the plate, and it goes box-to-box. Even a midget can stretch her arms long enough to reach it!

Like many of the SP players FP usually mock, he wants to play t-ball

[reccer]

Dakota: No problem, I figured since we added those two pitcher lines it might fly.

Wade: I hated that drill. It was not real world realistic. I still see his home run that basically ended Lidge as a closer in Houston.

Like many of the SP players FP usually mock, he wants to play t-ball

Mike, just to be clear, spent 3 nites* a week playing on multiple SP teams and tourneys on the weekend before we had kids, it was the best time of my life. By contrast, hitting FP is just theory with me, never faced one that you couldn't plug in. "She" puts it in the same spot, same speed and I wear her out.

*that's how I spell it.