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Old Wed May 27, 2009, 11:01am
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Having worked games involving this coach I am sure he asked if it was a legal position or thing to do. He usually does know the rules, but wants to get a warm fuzzy that his idea is not going to bite him later on.

This being said, no matter what the umpire has to say, this was handled the wrong way, where could the F4 been? Behind the F2 and the umpire?

This is a strange situation and most of us do not want to affect the game in the way this umpire did.
This is True but remember what that canadian coach said to me this weekend " you can do whatever you want cant you ?" so maybe I was working this game or atleast if it was in canada and he was a highschool coach there and somehow I was there it wouldve been me and he still would be dumped
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Old Wed May 27, 2009, 02:40pm
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This is True but remember what that canadian coach said to me this weekend " you can do whatever you want cant you ?" so maybe I was working this game or atleast if it was in canada and he was a highschool coach there and somehow I was there it wouldve been me and he still would be dumped
It's my understanding from talking with the Canadian coaches this past weekend that the high schools in Canada do not have softball teams.
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Old Wed May 27, 2009, 03:34pm
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At higher levels of competition, Im not sure that we need to be babysitting the coaches and making sure they arent committing rules infractions. Rec ball, 8, 10u B games, sure. But a varsity high school game, or highly competitive club ball game, not so sure. Football officials dont stop play and keep a team from running an illegal formation. Now, if the coach did in fact ask the official and he indicated it would be ok, and then nailed him for it, that is a problem.

The case play in the FED book, 3.1.5 covers this exact play and says nothing about stopping the play before it happens. In case play, Coach moved F3 behind the catcher as backup, result is an illegal pitch, ball on batter, runners advance.
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Old Wed May 27, 2009, 03:39pm
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The case play in the FED book, 3.1.5 covers this exact play and says nothing about stopping the play before it happens. In case play, Coach moved F3 behind the catcher as backup, result is an illegal pitch, ball on batter, runners advance.
(red color) Of course not, the case book is just illustrating a rule, not teaching umpires.

And it is poor game management to let this happen; and worse to say ok first.
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Old Wed May 27, 2009, 03:55pm
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It's my understanding from talking with the Canadian coaches this past weekend that the high schools in Canada do not have softball teams.
Don't tell Alisha.

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Alisha Sherwood is a first year Sports and Exercise Psychology student at the University of New Brunswick – Saint John, and is a 2008 graduate of Simonds High School in Saint John, NB. She was named Most Valuable Player of her high school softball team three times, and recently represented New Brunswick at the Canadian Midget Girls Fast Pitch Championships in Stellarton, Nova Scotia. She is also part of New Brunswick’s Canada Games softball program
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We have 3 girls from Canada playing on our softball team at Iowa Western Community College. Their info from the softball team's website states the following for HS or Secondary school: 1 HS, 1 Secondary School, and 1 doesn't mention which, just the name of the school. Of course, we have a "high" number of girls from Canada because our head coach is a former Canadian National Team player and coach.
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Old Thu May 28, 2009, 09:26am
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Don't tell Alisha.

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Alisha Sherwood is a first year Sports and Exercise Psychology student at the University of New Brunswick – Saint John, and is a 2008 graduate of Simonds High School in Saint John, NB. She was named Most Valuable Player of her high school softball team three times, and recently represented New Brunswick at the Canadian Midget Girls Fast Pitch Championships in Stellarton, Nova Scotia. She is also part of New Brunswick’s Canada Games softball program
There ya go......certainly not the first time I've been misinformed by a coach.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 08:37am
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It's my understanding from talking with the Canadian coaches this past weekend that the high schools in Canada do not have softball teams.
I mean it was totally figurative but I dont doubt it ... by the time the season would start ... they would only have 2 feet of ice to dig through to get to the field....soooooo yeah
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