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[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

What? Like keeping all elements of the play in front of you?

Any you know as well as I do that this is a myth of working the rim. It sounds good, but is a selling point that doesn't exist.

[CecilOne]

Years ago, as BU in B position, moving inside for a hit to RF, collided with the pitcher. He ended up with a knee injury, out for the season I heard.

Sorry, didn't have a scale with me.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Any you know as well as I do that this is a myth of working the rim. It sounds good, but is a selling point that doesn't exist.

I have tried it lately with success on hits to left or left-center. The advantage is if the BR does not go to 2nd. But I cut behind the runner in time to be inside for a tag at 2nd or any attempt at 3rd.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I have tried it lately with success on hits to left or left-center. .

And at what point did you have the ball, base and runner in your vision at the same time?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And at what point did you have the ball, base and runner in your vision at the same time?

Only after the runner passed me, which means depending on my partner to watch the runner before that, if discussed in pre-game.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Only after the runner passed me, which means depending on my partner to watch the runner before that, if discussed in pre-game.

And your partner is going to do that how while watching for fair/foul, catch/no catch on the ball to left field especially near the line?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And your partner is going to do that how while watching for fair/foul, catch/no catch on the ball to left field especially near the line?

He has 2 heads.

Seriously, I didn't say it works all the time or not. I said I tried it with success. Of course, if the fair/foul occurs at the same moment as OBS by F3, the PU probably will miss the OBS. I also did not say I was ignoring the BR, just not having all in front of me at the same time. Like watching multiple runners touch each base, the magic word is "swivel". The BU does not need the ball in view for fair/foul, catch/no catch every instant; which means I can "swivel" watching the BR while moving. I certainly lose sight of the ball in left field while doing a buttonhook, but on "the rim", I get a better idea of the depth and timing of the outfielder.

Also, I agree with your premise about working as prescribed, but all mechanics allow deviation.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

I also did not say I was ignoring the BR, just not having all in front of me at the same time.

This was my only question. The premise that is used to sell the "rim" is keeping the elements in front of you and it just isn't true.

I have worked this numerous times and had some serious discussions with HP when in Plant City with him. In a 3-umpire system with experienced crew, the "rim" can work quite well as long as everyone is on the same page and no one falters, physically or mentally.

Though it should not being a main reason for a mechanic to be put into place, I have found being inside the diamond places partners in a better position to adjust should a partner not get to where then need to be for any reason.