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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 08:50am
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For coin flip, I usually pick who will call it or who is heads. I dont do the who's farther, roll a ball to the circle, rock paper scissors, flip twice stuff. Usually the person who was out there first calls it. I dont tell jokes, goof off, conduct uniform inspections or any of that stuff. Slam bam thank you maam, play ball.
The "legally and properly equipped" applies only in NFHS, as does any sportsmanship reminders. I can't think of anything that gets coaches wondering about an umpire's knowledge more than attempting to apply a standard that doesn't apply before the game even starts. College coaches, as well as upper level travel teams, immediately identify you as a "high school ump"; and that isn't meant to be a compliment by most.

I give even less options than Wade on a coin flip. I assign the team to my left "heads", and the team to my right "tails", then I flip. Same every time, less chance of mixing anything up. A coin flip decision doesn't require giving anyone a choice; just a 50/50 chance. (Besides, the coach can go back saying "he" didn't lose, I did.)
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 09:36am
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The "legally and properly equipped" applies only in NFHS, as does any sportsmanship reminders. I can't think of anything that gets coaches wondering about an umpire's knowledge more than attempting to apply a standard that doesn't apply before the game even starts. College coaches, as well as upper level travel teams, immediately identify you as a "high school ump"; and that isn't meant to be a compliment by most.

I give even less options than Wade on a coin flip. I assign the team to my left "heads", and the team to my right "tails", then I flip. Same every time, less chance of mixing anything up. A coin flip decision doesn't require giving anyone a choice; just a 50/50 chance. (Besides, the coach can go back saying "he" didn't lose, I did.)

I do the same on the coin flip.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 09:42am
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Thats also my preferred method especially in championship play... sometimes though I do pick someone to pick at the showcases and whatever. In championship play, no goofin around with even that.

I agree that most upper level coaches immediately identify you as "just another goofy umpire" type if you go into all these unnecessary things in the pregame. Coaches that have been around 10-15+years - what are you really telling them when you go into your diatribe (NFHS mandated statements aside)?
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 11:07am
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I do the same on the coin flip.
Had a double flipper a couple of weekends ago. First time I ever had a partner who did the double flip.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 02:19pm
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Had a double flipper a couple of weekends ago. First time I ever had a partner who did the double flip.
NSA wants a double flip during their tournaments.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 05:02pm
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Had a double flipper a couple of weekends ago. First time I ever had a partner who did the double flip.
OK stupid question...what the heck is a double flip?
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 06:35pm
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OK stupid question...what the heck is a double flip?
My guess is that the umpire assigns heads/tails to the teams and whoever wins that flip calls the second flip.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 06:41pm
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OK stupid question...what the heck is a double flip?
First, Blue has to show us his great-grandfather's 1890 era Spanish gold coin, This side is heads, this side is tails. Who wants to call it? Coaches waste 10 secs hemming and hawing you can call it. No, you're younger, you call it. No, you're from out of town, you call it. Finally that is settled.

The winner of the first flip earns the right to call heads/tails on the second flip to decide who is home or visitor. He wins, and announces he wants to be visitor.

Other Coach says we could have saved a couple of minutes if you would have stated your intention before this double flip.

Just one flip please. Catch it in the air and start the clock.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 07:06pm
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Thanks for the explanation.

Flipping to decide....who gets the call the flip? OK that sounds more than just a little goofy.
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 07:25pm
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Thanks for the explanation.

Flipping to decide....who gets the call the flip? OK that sounds more than just a little goofy.
I couldn't agree more.

The things that must be done to humor associations and UIC's seems to get longer every year.
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First, Blue has to show us his great-grandfather's 1890 era Spanish gold coin, This side is heads, this side is tails.

we have a guy like that in our backyard - uses a 9/11 coin, and goes to great lengths explaining about it - and I bet there is somebody out there who has worked with this guy at a national somewhere...

Me, I use an Eisenhower Dollar - no explaination needed....

I have, however, occasonally used a dollar gaming chip from a certain establishment in Las Vegas
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Old Wed May 06, 2009, 09:37pm
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we have a guy like that in our backyard - uses a 9/11 coin, and goes to great lengths explaining about it - and I bet there is somebody out there who has worked with this guy at a national somewhere...

Me, I use an Eisenhower Dollar - no explaination needed....

I have, however, occasonally used a dollar gaming chip from a certain establishment in Las Vegas
I use a Canadian Loonie.
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