Giving a batter time

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Years ago while watching a baseball game where the BU who also umpired softball called dead ball because the batter hit a pitch into his foot while still in the batter’s box. The PU hustled to the ball, picked it up and began blowing on the ball several times. The PU then announced that all was ok and that through resuscitation he’d brought the ball back to life and it was time to play ball.

Are you serious? I'm ROTFL over this. What age group was this?

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Are you serious? I'm ROTFL over this. What age group was this?

HS Varsity. I chuckled for several innings.

[wadeintothem]

I believe in NFHS BB they are using the DDB signal now?

They'll come around on the dead ball call as well.

That will be fun because heads will explode.

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

I believe in NFHS BB they are using the DDB signal now?

They'll come around on the dead ball call as well.

That will be fun because heads will explode.

Headless umpires...chaos will ensue. Headless coaches...serenity for umpires.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Headless umpires...chaos will ensue. Headless coaches...serenity for umpires.

"Headless coaches?" Isn't that redundant?

If so, who stole my damned serenity? Because I sure as hell don't have any on the field.

[LIIRISHMAN]

Getting back to the original topic. How many times will you let a batter ask for (or is it demand )time. Some of these players are out of control with tightening their batting gloves or digging in their feet at the box.As other officials have posted I'll give time if it's an legitimate request otherwise stay in the batters box and swing!

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by LIIRISHMAN

Getting back to the original topic. How many times will you let a batter ask for (or is it demand )time. Some of these players are out of control with tightening their batting gloves or digging in their feet at the box.As other officials have posted I'll give time if it's an legitimate request otherwise stay in the batters box and swing!

Unless the batter has requested time in a timely manor, my response is "Balls in play." I stop the jockeying back and forth between the pitcher and batters early in the game by directing the batter to the box and directing the pitcher to play ball.

I've also been know to mention to the catcher that her pitcher has twenty seconds to deliver the pitch after she's received the ball back and grant the catcher time out to deliver the message.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

I believe in NFHS BB they are using the DDB signal now?

They'll come around on the dead ball call as well.

That will be fun because heads will explode.

Says Jim Evans about the DDB, "What does that mean? Is it in a coma?"

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

Says Jim Evans about the DDB, "What does that mean? Is it in a coma?"

Did he really?

Thats funny

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

Says Jim Evans about the DDB, "What does that mean? Is it in a coma?"

While at the Evans Academy several years ago an umpire yelled dead ball and one of the instructors ran over to the rolling ball and beat it into the ground with a bat. When the instructor finished he declared that the ball had still been moving but it was dead now.

I don't recall hearing another dead ball called for the remainder of the five weeks.

[Dakota]

I know small ball has it's own mechanics, signals, etc. No problem with that (so long as the BB officials don't try to impose them on a softball game as if they are superior, etc.). However, this one makes little sense to me. There is a distinct difference between a dead ball and calling TIME. For example, if the ball is thrown out of play, it is dead when it goes out of play, not when the umpire declares it so. Whereas, if a player or coach requests TIME, it is not a time out UNTIL the umpire declares it so. Calling TIME when no one has requested TIME just to avoid having to say DEAD BALL is the screwy mechanic, if you ask me (but, of course, they didn't... and won't).

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

While at the Evans Academy several years ago an umpire yelled dead ball and one of the instructors ran over to the rolling ball and beat it into the ground with a bat. When the instructor finished he declared that the ball had still been moving but it was dead now.

I don't recall hearing another dead ball called for the remainder of the five weeks.

I guess I really don't understand this issue here. To me, and it may be just a softball thing, there is a difference between "time" (a requested/directed suspension of during a lull in play) and "dead ball" (an event-driven stoppage during while a play is in progress). These are two specific actions during a game, so why wouldn't there be two separate mechanics?

MLB Official Rules defines both a Dead Ball and Time separately, so what is the issue?

And these same rules routinely refer to a ball in play as "alive", so I am still confounded by their problem with an umpire declaring a ball "dead".

[wadeintothem]

I know I had occassion to shout "DEAD BALL" in a 18U Legion game and BOTH dugouts started shouting "its dead, bury it" etc. It was a memorable and slighly embarrassing thing! For OBS/INT etc, the correct mechanic is "TIME".
Lame but thats what it is.

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

HS Varsity. I chuckled for several innings.

And the friendly white uniformed gentlemen with the nice wraparound white strait jacket and rubbered white paddy wagon van didn't come to take this blue to a nice state-owned "hotel" equipped with a bunch of rubber rooms?